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| Author: | Guest [ 13 Mar 2012, 22:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Laser Rot and sellers... |
I am looking to be starting to sell laserdisc and I had a question about laserdisc rot. I have seen bigger stores say that none of their discs have laser rot. If that is true, when they say they have over 10,000 discs in stock. Obviously if you can not tell disc rot by the naked eye... that would mean they have to watch every movie? Sounds like to me. But when I go looking at sellers on LDDB, there are some that grade based on cover and do not even mention disc rot at all. How important is disc rot to buyers who are looking for a title? I don't want to watch over 1700 discs, but I also don't want to sell discs that are so bad that don't even play. I did watch a SCREAM that I had my collection and it was so bad that it was unwatchable. But how can a seller be the best seller possible and not know if the disc has rot??? Do most buyers think quality means the cover art? I won't sell a disc that is broken or has major scratches but plan to be as honest as I can about the covers. What is everyone's opinion on sellers disclosing rot as a necessity or not??? |
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| Author: | johan184 [ 13 Mar 2012, 22:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
If its a very expensive disc you might want to watch it to see if its ok. Otherwise I would think the easiest way if to simple refund a buyer if its rotted. Me as a buyer dont expect that the seller watch 90 min of video before selling me a 15 bucks disc. |
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| Author: | rein-o [ 13 Mar 2012, 22:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
when i sell discs i always try to spot watch them. |
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| Author: | johan184 [ 13 Mar 2012, 22:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
Mayby its only me but it sometimes happen that I buy a movie, and then just put it in the shelves. So its not always the buyer will see the rot for a long time. |
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| Author: | starlaser [ 13 Mar 2012, 22:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
I always do a quick scan for laser rot most likely if there is rot it will show up at the beginning of each side but not always though. I do this with all used titles because as a collector too, I surely do not want to pay for a title that is unwatchable or distracting. Hard thing to find without watching the entire movie is any manufacture defect that might occur. A happy satisfied buyer makes a seller feel good about his service! 
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| Author: | Guest [ 13 Mar 2012, 22:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
So if a seller takes a disc and puts it in, flips to chapter after chapter and does not see any major signs of rot then it would be safe to say you checked and its good to go? Now what would be considered "rot" to a seller versus a buyer could be different, kinda like different stages. Like if there is a few speckles here or there, the buyer gets mad and says it has rot and a buyer looks at it and says the audio is fine, the speckles are few and far between... clean and could be considered rot free. I know my pricing is gonna be competitive, but I don't want to rape peoples pocket books for them to get good movies... but I also don't want people returning product cos my views on it is different than the buyers. |
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| Author: | mikeystoyz [ 13 Mar 2012, 23:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
On any disc over 25 dollars I rip a copy. As I rip I tend to watch it for rot. For anything under that I scan quick and send out. If Item has rot and under 25 I just refund. On anything over 25 I have disc sent back and make sure it is mine. I mark all my discs with invisible ink somewhere and can tell. Reason for that is I dont want to deal with scammers. Not that I have had more then 1, but one was all it took. Regardless. most people are honest and I dont have to worry. I think of the 2000 discs I have sent out I have missed 5. One of those could have just been a crappy transfer, lol. |
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| Author: | firehorse_44 [ 14 Mar 2012, 00:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
Simpler to just not sell titles with any sound and / or video anomalies. This requires one to view what is put up for sale. What rein-o mentions should cover the anomaly search adequately if not actually sat down and viewed in entirety. And if a dealer chooses to list a title with such present, a detailed explanation in the description notes should suffice. Full disclosure is the best policy after all is said and done, otherwise dishonesty creeps in. Thanks to all for this important thread......... |
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| Author: | rein-o [ 14 Mar 2012, 02:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
 
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| Author: | mikeystoyz [ 14 Mar 2012, 05:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
The other issue is sometimes there is a crappy transfer and people confuse it with rot. If it appears through the whole movie, but not at the beginning or the end and is only on the picture, that is usually a crappy transfer. I could name a couple. If it is older then 1988 or so I would probably side with crappy transfer more often then not. |
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| Author: | Guest [ 18 Mar 2012, 23:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
I recently asked a seller to check It Happened One Night the last pressing of it made by good old DADC well side 1 went well but side 2 was full of rot since i took his word for this i stupidly left him positive feedback but i bought multiple titles & saved on shipping these. |
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| Author: | rein-o [ 21 Mar 2012, 03:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
i hate to say it but i rememeber when i was looking for a rare disc and was willing to pay for it i asked a certian seller from a country with a red and white flag if it had rot and he said that he has never seen rot  now i have bought discs from that seller but never did get that one, and i never bought from that seller again. |
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| Author: | laserdiscvault [ 25 Mar 2012, 03:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
As a seller you will not have the time to check every single laserdisc that you send out for laser rot. You will be much better off to offer a long warranty period (We offer 60 days) because not everyone will watch the movie within a week or two, and a long warranty period builds trust as well and tells the customer that you stand behind what you well. You may get burned once or twice over a long period of time by a scammer, but over all, the laserdisc community is made up of a GREAT bunch of laserdiscs enthusiasts and just genuinely good people. So, I would not worry about getting scammed and I would just offer a great warranty and make sure you take care of the customer when and if a problem does arrive! Good luck to you in your new endeavor! Kevin |
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| Author: | cpix [ 25 Mar 2012, 13:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
laserdiscvault wrote: As a seller you will not have the time to check every single laserdisc that you send out for laser rot. You will be much better off to offer a long warranty period (We offer 60 days) because not everyone will watch the movie within a week or two, and a long warranty period builds trust as well and tells the customer that you stand behind what you well. You may get burned once or twice over a long period of time by a scammer, but over all, the laserdisc community is made up of a GREAT bunch of laserdiscs enthusiasts and just genuinely good people. So, I would not worry about getting scammed and I would just offer a great warranty and make sure you take care of the customer when and if a problem does arrive! Good luck to you in your new endeavor! Kevin too bad there isn't a "Like" button here, cause this is why i always try to use your shop! it has the best customer service among the biggest sites! 
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| Author: | rein-o [ 25 Mar 2012, 17:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Laser Rot and sellers... |
laserdiscvault wrote: As a seller you will not have the time to check every single laserdisc that you send out for laser rot. You will be much better off to offer a long warranty period (We offer 60 days) because not everyone will watch the movie within a week or two, and a long warranty period builds trust as well and tells the customer that you stand behind what you well. You may get burned once or twice over a long period of time by a scammer, but over all, the laserdisc community is made up of a GREAT bunch of laserdiscs enthusiasts and just genuinely good people. So, I would not worry about getting scammed and I would just offer a great warranty and make sure you take care of the customer when and if a problem does arrive! Good luck to you in your new endeavor! Kevin BUT, shipping from another country, paying crazy prices etc. and then to have the seller say they never saw rot on a disc before. i'm sure you have seen rot before, o.k. so you don't watch every disc and take peoples words, that's fine i have nothing wrong with that, but if you did all that and said you never saw rot before i may never want to buy from you, even if you do have a return policy. there are some who sell discs who don't even own a player etc. |
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