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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 23:20 |
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yes, colorburst is from my player, i'm not using the same player as in the past. what i should have done was turn the color off on the projector since its a black and white film. if there is something on discovision only then you just take the risk and get it or look for a buyer that will test play them. duff's has some non rotter discovision for sale, i know my incredible shrinking woman is also clean on both sides but that is a newer disc and has the laservision logo on the cover. i only bought 2 copies of that to find a non rotter. ________________________________ the rein-o official signature: 
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ratkins
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 02:43 |
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tpgb12 wrote: Wow, that looks great for a 1979 release! I do see some slight color-bursting, though. My main problem with DiscoVision is ROT (I used to have a DiscoVision title with rot so bad that I pretty much vowed that I will never get another one unless it's extremely cheap.) You're lucky to have a pretty clean DiscoVision release (It seems like pretty much every DiscoVision release is a rotter.) In my experience it is harder to find a truly rotten Discovision than it is to find a clean one. I have a near complete Discovision collection with 100's of duplicates and the percentage of rot is small. I have found more rot on Pioneer Discovision releases, (the CLV titles with the LaserVision logo), than on original 1978-80 releases. The black & white releases are not only beautiful, they are more film-like than any other home video format, in my opinion. Discovision had numerous problems but I have to disagree with you that every Discovision release is a rotter.
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 02:54 |
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ratkins wrote: Thank you rein-o for the review and for posting pics and proving how good the Discovision classic releases are. no problem, i was going to watch full metal jacket last night but really wanted to review a discovision disc to dispel the myth of horrible rotters ________________________________ the rein-o official signature: 
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 15 May 2014, 19:53 |
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ratkins wrote: tpgb12 wrote: Wow, that looks great for a 1979 release! I do see some slight color-bursting, though. My main problem with DiscoVision is ROT (I used to have a DiscoVision title with rot so bad that I pretty much vowed that I will never get another one unless it's extremely cheap.) You're lucky to have a pretty clean DiscoVision release (It seems like pretty much every DiscoVision release is a rotter.) In my experience it is harder to find a truly rotten Discovision than it is to find a clean one. I have a near complete Discovision collection with 100's of duplicates and the percentage of rot is small. I have found more rot on Pioneer Discovision releases, (the CLV titles with the LaserVision logo), than on original 1978-80 releases. The black & white releases are not only beautiful, they are more film-like than any other home video format, in my opinion. Discovision had numerous problems but I have to disagree with you that every Discovision release is a rotter. The DiscoVision disc I had that was extremely rotted was actually a Pioneer pressing (Extended Play "The Blues Brothers").
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 15 May 2014, 22:51 |
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I've actively collected DiscoVision since the earliest days of the format and rot just isn't a real worry with MCS pressed titles. While there has been a few cases of rot, its so rare that it's hardly seen in DiscoVision discs. If you buy a MCA DiscoVision title and it plays fine, the odds are that it will stay that way. DiscoVision DID have rot but it was different than what we think of as rot now - DiscoVision rot happened right after the disc was pressed and packaged, on the way to the dealer, so you'd buy a disc and it would be covered with snow - so you took it back and got another copy that didn't have snow in the image. Also DiscoVision had massive problems with inclusions - dust contaminating the discs before they were glued together. The worst cases look exactly like rot.
The non-feature films, the educational titles and stuff, can look beautiful because they were mastered and pressed by the engineers that invented the format in Torrance, CA - the DiscoVision labs were just across from Del Amo mall. DiscoVision was so busy with pressing consumer and industrial titles that the smaller runs of non-feature films went to the engineers.
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 16 May 2014, 03:58 |
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tpgb12 wrote: The DiscoVision disc I had that was extremely rotted was actually a Pioneer pressing (Extended Play "The Blues Brothers"). Exactly. A Pioneer disc, not Discovision.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 16 May 2014, 04:35 |
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i have had some discovision CAV with issues. some speckles here and there or static type image. but it seems to be mastering flaws, as the 2 films that i've been trying to find clean copies of have the flaws at the same places on the same sides always. so to me that's just a mastering flaw and not really rot. ________________________________ the rein-o official signature: 
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 25 May 2014, 18:48 |
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blam1 wrote: As Disclord indicated, rot is actually quite rare in DiscoVision titles. If the title was clean when purchased, it typically stayed this way. Now don't get me wrong, there are discs with speckling. Sometimes very minor and sometimes horrifically bad. That said, going back to the very beginning of my collection (I'm missing only 2 non-feature titles), I've never actually had a disc fail that was initially good. Got to ask; Which two are you missing?
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 29 May 2014, 23:02 |
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ratkins wrote: blam1 wrote: As Disclord indicated, rot is actually quite rare in DiscoVision titles. If the title was clean when purchased, it typically stayed this way. Now don't get me wrong, there are discs with speckling. Sometimes very minor and sometimes horrifically bad. That said, going back to the very beginning of my collection (I'm missing only 2 non-feature titles), I've never actually had a disc fail that was initially good. Got to ask; Which two are you missing? I'm missing these: 31-002 Greek Cooking with Theonie: Baklava / Orange Sweets 94-002 Forgive & Forget / Thank You, Thank You Some claim these also exist and I've never seen copies, bit I still keep an eye out...: 64-004 Volcano: The Birth of a Mountain / The San Andreas Fault 71-004 Three by John Whitney 91-002 Mission to Love: The Call of Confirmation
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 01 Jun 2014, 17:06 |
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blam1 wrote: I'm missing these: 31-002 Greek Cooking with Theonie: Baklava / Orange Sweets 94-002 Forgive & Forget / Thank You, Thank You
Some claim these also exist and I've never seen copies, bit I still keep an eye out...: 64-004 Volcano: The Birth of a Mountain / The San Andreas Fault 71-004 Three by John Whitney 91-002 Mission to Love: The Call of Confirmation
Wow! So you are convinced that Baklava/Orange Sweets was actually released? Have you ever seen one? This means I have to add another title to my list of "needs". Damn!
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 02 Jun 2014, 00:23 |
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ratkins wrote: blam1 wrote: I'm missing these: 31-002 Greek Cooking with Theonie: Baklava / Orange Sweets 94-002 Forgive & Forget / Thank You, Thank You
Some claim these also exist and I've never seen copies, bit I still keep an eye out...: 64-004 Volcano: The Birth of a Mountain / The San Andreas Fault 71-004 Three by John Whitney 91-002 Mission to Love: The Call of Confirmation
Wow! So you are convinced that Baklava/Orange Sweets was actually released? Have you ever seen one? This means I have to add another title to my list of "needs". Damn! I have copy of an warehouse inventory report from July 1979 that states there were 16 copies shipped to stores. So I hold out hope. Which titles are you missing?
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 02 Jun 2014, 04:20 |
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blam1 wrote: Which titles are you missing? My collection has grown quite a bit since last we spoke but there are still a handful of non-feature titles I need: Made in Milan If you Can Walk Singing Whale Nobody's Victim The Solar System Archeological Dating Women at Work Le Corbusier Winterwings The Guide Forgive and Forget and now...Baklava
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Post subject: Re: If I Had a Million (1932) [21-003] DISCOVISION  Posted: 02 Jun 2014, 18:37 |
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ratkins wrote: blam1 wrote: Which titles are you missing? My collection has grown quite a bit since last we spoke but there are still a handful of non-feature titles I need: Made in Milan If you Can Walk Singing Whale Nobody's Victim The Solar System Archeological Dating Women at Work Le Corbusier Winterwings The Guide Forgive and Forget and now...Baklava Yes, these are the tough ones to find. I find "Solar System" and "Archelogical Dating" on ebay a few years ago and paid a fortune for each. "Le Corbusier" is also exceptionally hard to find.
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