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spooky
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Post subject: Re: what anime's have you guys been watching recently Posted: 05 Aug 2024, 23:55 |
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Yeah Reino, that's a pretty good list of things that 7 is kinda mix of. I was so hyped to hear about a new series in the pages of Animerica mag circa '94. I had the Kiseki dubs of Macross II and thought they were beautiful, even if the VA was funny. Then the mecha designs for 7 started coming through on the pages of future issues and I was like "huh?" Mylene's design was hot though and I bought the Macross 7 animation materials book just because it had Mylene on the cover and was available at Kinokuniya or Japan Book Plaza in Sydney then. Kawamori is an idiot except for the original valk perfect transformation, Mikimoto is a master. Then Plus was big on VHS here and my friends loved it. I was always like "this ain't Macross tho".
I didn't see 7 until I borrowed a bootleg DVD set from someone probably '03. It lost me at the mech designs, space vampires, horrible space combat dogfight footage (constantly reused) and the same song on repeat for the first 15 episodes. There is a small fate of the Megaroad/origin of the Supervision Army payoff at the end that somehow grabbed me at the time but I can't even remember what it was exactly.
I have diavowed it for a long time and ascribe to the Big West canon which got me banned on Macross World forums. I saw 0 (kinda the coolest Kawamori verse show imo) , watched half of Frontier and then gave up. I don't even know what the latest Macross show is, don't care either. I heard it went full retard moe/let's appeal to women college students.
I think what happened to Macross is very similar to what happened with Star Wars, one guy, given unlimited control, ruins everything. The originals were collaborations between many talents and the best ideas all rose to the top in the final products. Kawamori isn't a director, he's an engineer/designer with essentially one good design he's riffed off for 40 years, kind of a hack in a way.
Whereas Itano is a DIRECTOR. That's why you have so many incredible sequences in the original show, nothing to do with Kawamori.
Dynamite, while pretty, was pointless. It might appeal to peacenick space rockers like SoZ though? I was always mostly into Macross because it was a WAR story. Maybe SoZ likes the episode where Vermillion team tries to disable the enemy pods instead of kill them. That appraoch gladly ends pretty fast because war is hell man...
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gypsy
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Post subject: Re: what anime's have you guys been watching recently Posted: 06 Aug 2024, 00:18 |
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skyjedi2020 wrote: I also watched the remake of Urusei Yatsura and didn't like it. My favorite version of Urusei Yatsura is To Love Ru.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: what anime's have you guys been watching recently Posted: 07 Aug 2024, 03:06 |
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takeshi666 wrote: Babel starts flying around in this dinky little UFO too that just screams "we need to sell toys with this thing". I can almost imagine the discourse that must've taken place for Ropuros sudden change of appearance, too.
I'll probably re-watch the Giant Robo OVA at some point, now that I can actually catch all the references to Yokoyama's other works, at least the science fiction ones. That's odd since I don't believe they made any toys for Babel at all, only way I ever found out about this was from the LD. Unless there was a random candy toy or vinyl that I forgot about, probably only a super small handful of toys for this series. I think they made more Inazuman toys back in the day then Babel. And I can only think of about 5 or 6 toys ever made for Inazuman, and I own 3 of them.
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Post subject: Re: what anime's have you guys been watching recently Posted: 07 Aug 2024, 18:30 |
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signofzeta wrote: I don’t remember any Babel II toys that aren’t at least as old as the OVA but I have some books I can check when I get home. Oh, I was talking about the original series from the 70s, for the OVA possibly something made by Yutaka or another company later in the 90s or when the OVA was released.
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Post subject: Re: what anime's have you guys been watching recently Posted: 12 Aug 2024, 14:38 |
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Well, Devilman was pretty horrifying. The manga is anyway.
Babel as a manga reads like a very simple one dimension story about a child given superpowers and his arch enemy. Neither can die and they fight forever. It’s honestly pretty stupid how long it goes on with the same thing. It’s also very very low on character development. Babel leaves his normal human life pretty early on and […Komei…maybe? bad guy] didn’t have any henchmen I still remember. It kinda was like a toy sponsored show even then it’s extreme simplicity and repetition. It’s possible that it was considered to be not representing good Japanese values or something but not uniquely so. Go Nagai and Yudetamago were much much more violent in weekly boys manga. Maybe it was the way he abandoned his mother? It’s very much like an attempt to be Tezuka and simply not hitting any of the buttons hard enough of often enough. It’s mediocre. I did finish it.
When it comes to toys…you know those super low end toys like “Suction cup dart gun”, “squirt gun”, “spark gun”, “top”, “helicopter” etc where they weren’t made for any one character so they’d make a Spider-Man one and a Gundam one and a Ultra one and most of them didn’t make sense because The Incredible Hulk never used a friggn helicopter? Maybe his UFO was one of those things?
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Post subject: Re: what anime's have you guys been watching recently Posted: 14 Aug 2024, 00:43 |
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signofzeta wrote: Babel as a manga reads like a very simple one dimension story about a child given superpowers and his arch enemy. Neither can die and they fight forever. It’s honestly pretty stupid how long it goes on with the same thing. It’s also very very low on character development. Babel leaves his normal human life pretty early on and […Komei…maybe? bad guy] didn’t have any henchmen I still remember. It kinda was like a toy sponsored show even then it’s extreme simplicity and repetition. It’s possible that it was considered to be not representing good Japanese values or something but not uniquely so. Go Nagai and Yudetamago were much much more violent in weekly boys manga. Maybe it was the way he abandoned his mother? It’s very much like an attempt to be Tezuka and simply not hitting any of the buttons hard enough of often enough. It’s mediocre. I did finish it. Sounds like it'd be perfect for a weekly cartoon adaptation but pretty dull to actually read. I think the only Yokoyama manga I've ever actually read was Mars. And Giant Robo, but I think that was only two chapters anyway??
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spooky
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Post subject: Re: what anime's have you guys been watching recently Posted: 14 Aug 2024, 07:16 |
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gypsy wrote: Chie the Brat tv series 1981
Really fantastic series. Directed by Isao Takahata so that isn't too surprising. Does it have communist and/or Imperial Japanese apologist themes like his other work that you picked up on?
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