|
It is currently 26 Apr 2024, 15:16
|
View unsolved topics | View unanswered posts
|
|
|
|
Author |
Message |
Guest
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 06:30 |
|
signofzeta wrote: The only catch is that there is no description, terrible comunication, and horrendously huge shipping costs. Yeah, there is nothing about condition and stuff like obis and inserts but I have been amazed with everything from them so far: these Oniisama E discs are truly mint and crisp. Your luck may vary. The shipping is not cheap: I paid 7500 yen to ship this order which had 11 platters to the USA, which is more than what the lds cost (still not that bad, considering the order took just a few days to arrive by EMS - truly premium service!). In my experience, surugaya cannot be beat for providing some elusive title you really want. Oniisama E sets turn up on Yahoo JP now and then, but going through some bidding service would have been quite a bit more expensive (and I would not have found a set in better condition than this one). How surugaya makes any profit on their LD sales is anyone's guess. I have a feeling that their other sales are where they make their money, and the laserdisc business is just along for the ride .
|
|
|
|
|
signofzeta
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 10:00 |
Jedi Knight |
|
|
Joined: 14 Jan 2010, 09:44 Posts: 5988 Location: Ann Arbor Has thanked: 1292 times Been thanked: 1106 times
|
harlock wrote: The nice thing about QM, the 999 movies, and AOMY, on LD is that this is the only format with the full 4x3 open matte image, which is cropped to widescreen on digital releases.It's nice having the extra information in frame, and while these movies may have been intended to be matted to widescreen during projection, they were drawn full frame. On the Arcadia LD you can even see where the background painting ends, at the bottom of the frame, for a few seconds during one scene. I have Captain Harlock: Arcadia of my Youth (1982) [LSTD01195] and its definitely letter boxed. Are you taking about the US one or the really really early JP version? Either way, as a curiosity it's interesting, but I'm not sure why I would really want to see more than intended. They were probably just filling the same sized sheets as they did for TV anime since wide screen anime was still rather rare back then. It would be easier and cheaper to just direct it widescreen and then not order cels, boards, cameras, etc for 1:85 and just have everyone keep doing things 1:33. Anime was *incredibly* low budget in some ways back then.
_________________ All about LD care, inner sleeves, shrink wrap, etc.
https://youtu.be/b3O-vHpHRpM
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 17:07 |
|
signofzeta wrote: I have Captain Harlock: Arcadia of my Youth (1982) [LSTD01195] and its definitely letter boxed. Are you taking about the US one or the really really early JP version? Either way, as a curiosity it's interesting, but I'm not sure why I would really want to see more than intended. They were probably just filling the same sized sheets as they did for TV anime since wide screen anime was still rather rare back then. It would be easier and cheaper to just direct it widescreen and then not order cels, boards, cameras, etc for 1:85 and just have everyone keep doing things 1:33. Anime was *incredibly* low budget in some ways back then. I do indeed have the US Animeigo release of Arcadia of my Youth, and it is in 4X3 (they probably received the same master used for the earlier JP release). There is a bit more to see of the image in fullscreen, so I suppose it is more about seeing everything there is to see. I remember reading a review of the Korean GE999 DVD which illustrated the matte cutting off the head of a robot, and I want to see that robot head dammit . This does lead to some issues, because you can see things that were never intended to be seen: for example, there is the aforementioned scene on the US AOMY where you can actually see the bottom end of the background painting, brushstrokes and all, ending in white! The Queen Millennia disc I mentioned earlier in this thread actually is in widescreen (which I discovered after a viewing), as it is a late 90's release, rather than the 4X3 I thought it might be (the older QM movie ld from the 80's would have been fullscreen, like the Adieu 999 and AOMY discs from around the same time). It's also notable that the GE999 Galaxy Box remained at 4x3: it was from 1990, so it was only later that Matsumoto films came out on WS ld (e.g. the AOMY you mentioned and my QM movie ld). These movies were seen in widescreen originally, so that is probably the authentic experience (it definitely adds to the epic feel), but the completist in me has to have the 4X3 transfer too. I wonder about the meaning of "original aspect ratio" when dealing with open matte productions: perhaps the excesses of pan and scan cuts of 2:35 films may have conditioned purists into wanting to see everything, when some things are best left hidden, as is the case of some open matte compositions. Some theaters may have been set up for "Academy Ratio" projection back in the day, which would have projected the full frame, so for some viewers 4X3 would have been the version they remembered as original (in my case, the Sci-Fi channel showed the 999 movies as part of their "Anime Week" back in the late 90's, where I first saw them, and that fullscreen version probably stuck in my mind).
|
|
|
|
|
signofzeta
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 19:54 |
Jedi Knight |
|
|
Joined: 14 Jan 2010, 09:44 Posts: 5988 Location: Ann Arbor Has thanked: 1292 times Been thanked: 1106 times
|
I have zero desire to see more than intended. I don't want to see Robin Hood wearing Nike shoes, or boom mics at the top of the screen. Even more than that, it just jacks up the original composition. I mean, that stuff is fine for a blooper real, but it only subtracts from the experience for me. There is nothing "purist" about it. Its like a guy driving around in his Corvette with the hood off because he thinks it looks cooler.
However...I'm not sure what is "correct" is the case of Arcadia! When I watch it, some scenes look like they were composed for 4:3 since it seems *really* close to people's heads and things are just...layed out in a way that I wouldn't have done. However, if the backgrounds literally run out then obviously 4:3 isn't correct either.
New theory: maybe there was some bad communication and some of the studios created 4:3 content and some made 16:9? This is certainly possible given how spread out things were at the time. A lot of "studios" were actually just three guys in the attic of their mom's house. If a substantial amount of work was done incorrectly...retakes were really rare back then. If, for some reason, 10 minutes of the movie were completed at the wrong ratio they almost certainly would not have shot it again. They probably would have just picked an aspect ratio and went with it.
In which case, the "purist" would need both versions! These days, with everyone having wide TVs, you can just watch the 4:3 in Wide mode and get the same effect. The version I have fits my TV almost perfectly when zoomed. This would, of course, cut off the subs on the US version.
_________________ All about LD care, inner sleeves, shrink wrap, etc.
https://youtu.be/b3O-vHpHRpM
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 07:50 |
|
johan184 wrote: I did an order from them 2 days ago but it turns out that the only payment they can accept is local bank transfer, so I cant pay until I get to japan which only gives them 6 work days to get the package to me, can they make that ?
Do they accept paypal ? I saw somewhere that they accepted it but couldnt see that option at the checkout.... You'd have to use a shipping service with a surcharge but many will take paypal. I recently bought a Playstation 2 controller from Surugaya which was a three week process and I still haven't heard anything back since confirming. I'm definitely going to try a shipping service next time. Research and choose your own, but as an example this is who I'll be trying in the future. http://www.fromjapan.co.jp/I don't know if a domestic sale through a service would speed it up, ie they buy it and have it in hand and ready to ship in a few days instead of weeks and weeks. That could be an added bonus. But I don't know if that's the case.
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 19:02 |
|
It finally shipped today /bellyaching lol SoZ, it's an odd controller from a company called Fujiwork. The model is "Shin" and switches up the left analog stick with the d-pad. I was amazed to find one! I'm playing the Fatal Frames on Xbox and the Shin controller layout will help the transition to Fatal Frame 3 on PS2. I'm also excited to try this with Parasite Eve 2. If you don't cheat, that game's a serious b**ch with the normal stick placement. Here's a pic. I have one of Fujiwork's Kiwami controllers and their build quality is way up there with Hori.
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 22:35 |
|
I'm sure the long wait was indeed due to such a small order. Looks like they floated me a special shipping discount I missed while waiting, which was nice of them.
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 17 Mar 2013, 22:37 |
|
I'm curious to see if it's date stamped. I don't remember ever seeing these at EBX bitd, and I only learned of em a few years ago after trying the Kiwami cheap from hit-japan. It would be even more of a curious oddity if it pre-dates the Controller S.
|
|
|
|
|
signofzeta
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 00:01 |
Jedi Knight |
|
|
Joined: 14 Jan 2010, 09:44 Posts: 5988 Location: Ann Arbor Has thanked: 1292 times Been thanked: 1106 times
|
foolxmoney wrote: I'm curious to see if it's date stamped. I don't remember ever seeing these at EBX bitd, and I only learned of em a few years ago after trying the Kiwami cheap from hit-japan. It would be even more of a curious oddity if it pre-dates the Controller S. Why the controller S? The Saturn had two analogs on the left, the d-pad below the analog. The DC was the same way, and the DC pad quite obviously inspired the OG Xbox pad (not a good source of inspiration, IMO.) The Cube as well (which actually had a right analog). The reason the Dual Shock had the analogs down low was because they were added post facto to the original PS pad. They didn't want them interfering with the vast majority of PS software that didn't even use the analog sticks. At this point its probably a good idea to change direction and put the d-pad out of the way because now its usually only used for menu choices or as a group of four buttons.
_________________ All about LD care, inner sleeves, shrink wrap, etc.
https://youtu.be/b3O-vHpHRpM
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 01:08 |
|
signofzeta wrote: foolxmoney wrote: I'm curious to see if it's date stamped. I don't remember ever seeing these at EBX bitd, and I only learned of em a few years ago after trying the Kiwami cheap from hit-japan. It would be even more of a curious oddity if it pre-dates the Controller S. Why the controller S? The Saturn had two analogs on the left, the d-pad below the analog. The DC was the same way, and the DC pad quite obviously inspired the OG Xbox pad (not a good source of inspiration, IMO.) The Cube as well (which actually had a right analog). The reason the Dual Shock had the analogs down low was because they were added post facto to the original PS pad. They didn't want them interfering with the vast majority of PS software that didn't even use the analog sticks. At this point its probably a good idea to change direction and put the d-pad out of the way because now its usually only used for menu choices or as a group of four buttons. Yeah, I remember those first analog PS controllers! I still have one but it never saw much use before Dual Shock came to games. For that Fujiwork I just meant it would be a curious spot on the timeline, if it was conceived early on by someone and then went nowhere. It would definitely be sandwiched between what you mention, no doubt. I agree those DC controllers are not great lol. The original Xbox aren't too good either but I know some people like them. The right sticks are nice though, and they will fit into the S if you don't like the big dips. The Cube sticks are fantastic! I love the little triangulations around them to help orient yourself.
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 19 Mar 2013, 20:35 |
|
It's here. It's typical praise of Surugaya but I'll repeat it anyway, once the sale is closed they do get it out FAST.
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 13:57 |
|
i'm using google translate... so Cheap \ 2,670 new retail price! ! means the original retail price was Y2670? Pre-sale price 480 yen (tax included) this is the price they are selling it for now? theres no way to search for LD only? an "anime cd" is just an audio cd. whats an "underlay" ? a bedsheet or poster or something? from: http://www.suruga-ya.jp/database/185010757001.htmlwhat is a "Mook Animation" ? is it vhs? mook is the name of an animation studio? what format is it? the ld doesnt have a cover picture , darn. thanks for any help.
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
Post subject: Re: Ordering from Suruga-Ya Posted: 06 Apr 2013, 02:40 |
|
much thanks! i dont think i would have figured that one out on my own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|