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benmbe
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 01 Dec 2011, 14:07 |
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Joined: 02 May 2006, 13:59 Posts: 1652 Location: United Kingdom Has thanked: 86 times Been thanked: 69 times
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Good day publius, I hope you do'nt mind me asking: how many individual Anime LD's do you have in your collection, and also do you purchase regular movies on the Laserdisc format aswell. Sincere Regards
_________________ Το ταξίδι για την αλήθεια κάθε σκάφος δεμένα, κατόπιν δεν είναι να ληφθούν, ή μάλλον βάδισαν
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publius
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 02 Dec 2011, 02:43 |
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Joined: 23 Sep 2003, 18:14 Posts: 1391 Location: United States Has thanked: 39 times Been thanked: 21 times
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I'm not really fluent in Japanese, but I can usually do well enough to follow most of the dialogue in something aimed at the 12-to-14 set, such as Nadia or Kimagure Orange Road. (My level of proficiency varies with how much anime I watch, since it's my major exposure to the spoken language.) When that's not good enough, or for showings, I have a "genlock", which I can use with a computer to superimpose subtitles on the live video, if I have a timed sub script. This is exactly the process used for making tape fansubs, aeons ago. There are many such scripts available in the dark corners of the World Wide Net, & I have at least half of my library covered.
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naiaru
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 02 Dec 2011, 03:11 |
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publius wrote: I'm not really fluent in Japanese, but I can usually do well enough to follow most of the dialogue in something aimed at the 12-to-14 set, such as Nadia or Kimagure Orange Road. (My level of proficiency varies with how much anime I watch, since it's my major exposure to the spoken language.) When that's not good enough, or for showings, I have a "genlock", which I can use with a computer to superimpose subtitles on the live video, if I have a timed sub script. This is exactly the process used for making tape fansubs, aeons ago. There are many such scripts available in the dark corners of the World Wide Net, & I have at least half of my library covered. Yeah, I was wondering, how exactly are computers used to superimpose subtitles on the fly like that? Would it be practical in a home setting?
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publius
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 02 Dec 2011, 03:51 |
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naiaru wrote: Yeah, I was wondering, how exactly are computers used to superimpose subtitles on the fly like that? Would it be practical in a home setting? I don't know about "practical", but I do it. The classic approach uses three pieces of equipment : a computer, a LaserDisc player, & a genlocking overlay generator. The computer is running a programme such as SubStation Alpha, which basically runs in full-screen mode & generates a black screen with text in colours which may be selected by the user or included in the script. The LaserDisc player supplies the playback video. The "genlock" (a rather different use of the term from that encountered in the professional video world) downconverts the computer video to NTSC, in sync with the LD video, & mixes the two together, typically using a luma key function. The overall result is video with subtitles punched into it. If you had a computer with an NTSC output (which is not uncommon these days), & a video special-effects generator, mixer, or switcher with a frame-sync function (which is pretty usual — you could use one that didn't with an external frame-sync), you could avoid the need for the "genlock", which is a rather obscure piece of equipment, & difficult to find although not terribly expensive. I've got one that failed, & I eventually repaired, but in the meantime bought a replacement for. I might be prevailed upon to sell it.
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philburque46
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 04:08 |
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Joined: 07 Mar 2010, 11:13 Posts: 195 Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada Has thanked: 0 time Been thanked: 0 time
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I figured I'd post this here, as you guys all seem to be the experts on anime discs. A guy a little distance from me is selling his anime collection off, and while I do have a passing interest in some of the movies and shows, I really don't know much about most titles. Normally, I'd leave this all for someone else to scoop up, but he is selling a CLD-D704 for a decent price, and if I'm driving all that far to get it, I'd like to pick up something else to make my drive worth it. He seems intent on selling everything as a lot, so would picking all of these up for just under $200 be fair? I mean, if I don't like them I'd be happy to sell/trade them at fair prices to folks on here. Here's the list:
Dominion Tank Police -2 disc set
Project a-ko 1, 2, 3
Bubblegum Criss OVA Vols 1-4
Bubblegum Crash OVA Vols 1-3
Riding Bean/Madox 01
Orange Road TV box sets 1-2 -12 discs (Limited to 1000 pressing, DVD's long out of print)
Urusei Yatsura Movies 1-2,4,6
Oh my Goddess OVA Vol 1-2
AD Police OVA Vols 1-2
Vampire Princess Miyu Vols 1-2
Crusher Joe Movie sealed
Crusher Joe OVA's sealed
Rupan The Legend of the Gold of Babylon (never released on DVD)
Rupan Fuma Conspiracy
Baoh (long out of print on dvd)
RG Veda Vols 1-2
Battle Royal High School OVA
Area 88 OVA's Vols 1-3
Toward the Terra
Fist of the North Star Movie (very limited pressing)
Battle Angel
Gun Smith Cats
Giant Robo OVA vols 1-4
So like I said, I would like to have the D704 as a backup/spare parts unit as he said it needs calibrating, but I dunno if I wanna drive to 100 kms to pick only it up knowing it has issues.
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philburque46
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 07:25 |
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Joined: 07 Mar 2010, 11:13 Posts: 195 Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada Has thanked: 0 time Been thanked: 0 time
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Yeah, I'm considering going for it. I did enjoy most of my copy of Robot Carnival, and I have a copy of Lensman I have in my to watch pile that I hear is cool, also 3x3 Eyes. I'll let you guys know if I go for it and what ends up for sale.
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benmbe
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 05 Dec 2011, 09:24 |
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publius wrote: If you go by catalog numbers, about 500 not counting duplicates. Some of those are up to 24-disc sets, though, so the actual number of platters is larger. My "Collection Statistics" page counts 1077 non-dead sides, not including discs for which side count is not yet defined (still updates I need to do!), with 686.3 hours of play time. And I'm always hunting more!
Really anime is my focus. I rarely buy anything else, except as a gift for someone ; mainly test discs & classical music. Good day Publius, Thank you for your reply, That is very specialised indeed. I must admit that when I purchase an anime movie on Blu-Ray I will nearly always try to purchase the Japanese or South Korean ect versions first and then compare these against the US/UK. Titles such as ''WONDERFUL DAYS'' is a prime example of how different the content can be. I do prefer purchasing from the Country of which they originate from, and do not have a problem with subtitles. Publius Thank you again. Regards
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brmanuk
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 06 Dec 2011, 12:16 |
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publius wrote: brmanuk wrote: Do many Japanese anime releases have English audio? Can any one give a rough percentage of how many? I mean, are the majority of releases subbed or dubbed in English or only landmark films such as Akira etc? This is an American released disc. Of US-release anime discs, about 50%, I'd say, have dual-language audio. That includes most or all Pioneer USA & Manga Entertainment titles (the Manga discs are not labelled as having Japanese audio, but they do), a good fraction of A.D.Vision discs, & a few from Central Park Media (mostly the Software Sculptors label, but there are exceptions. Very rarely, a Japanese-release anime LD will have an English-language alternate audio track, & of course the Armitage III movie was released in Japan in the English language, with subtitles. Interesting. Speaking of the Ghost in the Shell Premium Box, do you (or anyone else) know if the extras feature English subs and/or dub? I've got the opportunity of buying this for around $25 US.
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publius
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 07 Dec 2011, 02:16 |
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Joined: 23 Sep 2003, 18:14 Posts: 1391 Location: United States Has thanked: 39 times Been thanked: 21 times
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brmanuk wrote: Interesting. Speaking of the Ghost in the Shell Premium Box, do you (or anyone else) know if the extras feature English subs and/or dub? I've got the opportunity of buying this for around $25 US. I didn't want to steer you wrong, so I pulled my copies. On the Japanese Premium Box, some of the trailers on Side 3 are in English, apparently from the theatrical release, & the "International Ending" with English credits is also included. There are also English on-screen captions for some of the promo materials. There is no closed captioning after the last line of the film, & the documentary on Side 5 is neither captioned/subtitled nor dubbed. The substantially different documentary on Side 4 of the Manga Entertainment US CAV release has the narration dubbed in English on the digital audio tracks, & left in the original Japanese on the analog audio ; subtitles are provided for the interview segments, which are not dubbed, but the narration is not captioned.
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publius
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 05:33 |
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publius wrote: On the Japanese Premium Box, some of the trailers on Side 3 are in English, apparently from the theatrical release, & the "International Ending" with English credits is also included. There are also English on-screen captions for some of the promo materials. There is no closed captioning after the last line of the film, & the documentary on Side 5 is neither captioned/subtitled nor dubbed. I have to say, considering how flat the English soundtrack for this film is compared to the Japanese version, it could just as well have been presented in mono. In other words, this was a huge missed opportunity for an AC-3 release. I mention this because the credits refer to "Dolby Stereo Digital" — in other words, it was available to theatres in AC-3.
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 10:19 |
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publius wrote: publius wrote: On the Japanese Premium Box, some of the trailers on Side 3 are in English, apparently from the theatrical release, & the "International Ending" with English credits is also included. There are also English on-screen captions for some of the promo materials. There is no closed captioning after the last line of the film, & the documentary on Side 5 is neither captioned/subtitled nor dubbed. I have to say, considering how flat the English soundtrack for this film is compared to the Japanese version, it could just as well have been presented in mono. In other words, this was a huge missed opportunity for an AC-3 release. I mention this because the credits refer to "Dolby Stereo Digital" — in other words, it was available to theatres in AC-3. Not to forget the opening sequence is available in AC3 on Dolby Digital Experience (1997) [PILW-7006] and sounds awesome compared to the non AC3 versions (of course some would say), BUT DIG THIS... I also own this on japanese Blu-ray, and guess what... there is no AC3 there either, it is "Linear PCM Dolby Surround 2.0", and you have to manually set your amp to surround... sounds just as flat as the LD version. Very disappointing.
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publius
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 14 Jan 2012, 07:33 |
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Well, a few weeks ago the binder of my AnimEigo Urusei Yatsua set, one of the worst choices in LD packaging history, finally bit the dust. The front cover simply came away. So, clever lad that I am, I managed to remove the paper inserts from the front, back, & spine, & come up with a plan for replacement packaging. Today I finished the first step, putting the discs into individual jackets, purchased plain from a local record store. Each one has a pattern of orange-&-black stripes on the spine giving the volume number in binary, which I made using address labels. My plan is to add another label to each jacket detailing the contents (episode numbers, story numbers, & titles).
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Post subject: Re: Anime on LD Posted: 11 May 2012, 11:38 |
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My collection, I really like Anime, however if you have to be lucky to find these nice Japanese editions (if you do not buy from EBAY) I personally never buy american editions. Put the last 3 separately, you most probably know why blue seed 2 volume1 KILA172 blue seed 2 volume2 KILA173 blue seed 2 volume3 KILA358 evangelion theatre box death (TRUE)² / rebirth / the end of evangelion KILA-9401~4 ghost in the shell Premium Box BEAL-921 macross plus movie edition BELL-887 memories BEAL-926 mononoke hime (princess mononoke) TKLA-50300 shin kujyaku oh volume 1 PILA-1254 shin kujyaku oh volume 2 PILA-1255 beast city volume 2 SHLA1014 beast city volume 3 SHLA1030 twin angels volume 1 & 2 DLZ-0184
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