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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 01 May 2019, 03:30 
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Golgo 13 Queen Bee.

Actually haven't seen that one, I always wanted to get it but then it was sort of too new for me at the time.
Guess I'll stay away, I do love The Professional, one of the better animes.
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 01 May 2019, 03:44 
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So, I'm not sure what I was expecting really. I had never watched any Golgo before so this may be par for the course with it. I actually didn't even buy the movie intentionally. I bought it in a German 5 movie/oav set that includes Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust was dirt cheap (less than the cost of the US DVD of VHD Bloodlust at the time). But anyway it's just non-stop sex and blood basically with nothing interesting to hold it together. Though some reviews I read after watching it act like it's interesting, I just found it boring. It's put me off of trying anything else in the franchise.
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 01 May 2019, 04:13 
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The original 80s Golgo is great. Don't miss the seamlessly integrated cgi graphics helicopter attack sequence :lol:
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PostPosted: 01 May 2019, 15:01 
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that was patently ridiculous looking, to say the least... :lol: :roll: :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 02 May 2019, 12:02 
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forper wrote:
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How about this?

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This is FANTASTIC.


I had a falcon in '82, is that an '82 falcon?

The figures look too posable to me, they should be more rigid with straight arms

Those are all from the 90's Power of the Force line, including the Falcon. Most vehicles in that line were just redecos of the originals, sometimes with retools to accommodate new electronics. The figures in that photo are a bit of a mixed bag too because Chewie and Obi-Wan there are from the earliest waves when they had herculean proportions, hence the latter's gorilla hands, while Luke and especially Han are from much later waves, which is why the latter has added articulation on top of the standard 6 POA and more screen-accurate physique.
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 02 May 2019, 14:13 
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Oh man, this reminds me.
I remember reading magazines when they were releasing those pieces from the original molds, people were stomping on them at TRS back in the day
when their "investments" may get hurt.

Even that set of classic figures, the box set released from the late 90s early 2000's with Luke, Obi, Vader and one or two more.
They looked EXACTLY like the originals but would have a different date on the legs or feet.
People were smashing them as they felt it would ruin the market, but it really didn't, but was funny at the time to think these people were so wound up.
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 02 May 2019, 14:44 
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Wow people are nuts sometimes.
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 02 May 2019, 18:04 
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It really was the beginning of the modern toy collecting scene. There was this great webcomic I read some time ago that read like a cliffnotes version of it all, people going from buying old junk at garage sale for pennies, flipping them for hundreds in collector stores, the collector stores being ran by snooty twats who looked down on everyone (this probably still holds true), the collectors in general sort of working together but also perfectly willing to rip each other off just to make some profit off all these old toys, the Episode I toy bubble that read like a prelude to the Beanie Baby collapse, and eventually the mainstream audience picking up on this and trying to sell their worthless old toys for a fortune too without any idea if they were actually worth anything or not, making it nearly impossible for the hardcore collectors to make any good finds anymore.

And now there's a whole new line that's come out that consists of vintage style figures but the packaging has this giant sticker on them saying they're reproductions and that stupid fake wear on the cardback and I bet some vintage fanatics are losing their minds over those, too.
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 02 May 2019, 20:12 
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They should just do what Hasbro does with GI Joe and Transformers. Make the re-issues so crap nobody wants them. :)

To be truthful the TF reissues are often terrific but some of them are very bad and some of those Joes were sub-pirate grade. Total jank.

There are anti-reissue people in the Tamiya collecting community which is even more gross than the fact that there is a Tamiya collecting community. They can’t just be happy with their massive stacks of unbuilt toy trucks they have to go on Internet forums and dump on the reissues that are the only sane choice for most people. It’s crazy because aside from censored advertising Tamiya’s reissues are almost almost at least as good as the originals. Usually they are slightly better. As someone who actually builds the things that’s most important. The new box art is different but still great.
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 02 May 2019, 22:20 
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I've bought both vintage and reissue Transformers and I can tell there's a definite difference in the plastic quality - but that in itself is not a dealbreaker for me. I also find the older reissues to be fairly solid pieces. It's only the ones that have already been reused and redecoed so many times over the years that mold degradation has started to set in, like the Combaticons, or Jazz, who they had to sculpt a whole new face at one point. Oddly enough, I haven't seen anybody raise this issue with any of the Optimus Prime re-releases, you'd think he'd suffer from it too.
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 03 May 2019, 01:22 
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I don’t like the glitter plastic but overall reissue TFs are pretty good as are many pirate ones.

I haven’t seen a decent Jazz since the 80s. Even the G2 one would barely hold together as a car
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PostPosted: 03 May 2019, 02:15 
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Official reissues at least enjoy the benefit of having some sort of QC performed on them. I made the mistake of buying a KO Shockwave and his legs won't stay fully extended, and his fist is molded crooked so it keeps prying the forearm apart. Not only that but when I took it apart to see why it was doing that, the screw ended up shearing so much plastic that now the forearm barely holds together at all, I should pick up a replacement from a vintage junker or something.
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 03 May 2019, 02:25 
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I bought one of those pirate Optimus Primes on eBay last year. It has some issues. The stickers don’t stick. The rubber has slightly perished in the box. Roller’s little rubber tube was completely shot. I made a few repairs and it’s a really solid Prime for $38, especially when you consider Hasbro is selling a cab-only version at Walmart for $50! The box tried hard but was laughably incorrect so I pitched it.

What I can’t quite figure out is why there aren’t more of the things out there, particularly KOs of rare guys like Twincast which would be easily done and could hardly be worse than the official one.
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PostPosted: 03 May 2019, 04:09 
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1st issue were actually Takara Diaclone pieces that were just repackaged, later on they retooled the molds for Hasbro.
While I wanted to pickup some of the dinobots I also just never go around and don't have the need now but they could have been from the
later retooled Hasbro molds that were again retooled.

Now on another note, the Roller I had when original had hard plastic wheels that snapped onto the car, did they change the design later on?
It was also fun being in NYC when these came out, you could get the boots really cheap and they were still diecast.

The one I remember most was the Omega Supreme, found a boot of that one, the art on the box was exactly like the original release of the toy.
Wow they were really pulling at straws to find any robot to toss into that line after the first line launched and they exhausted Takara, going to some rando
Japanese toy company for Shockwave was a real stretch and that was bootlegged so many times its not even funny, I think Radioshack even had a boot of that one.
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 Post subject: Re: What's the worst anime you've ever seen?
PostPosted: 03 May 2019, 12:35 
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I'd better start a new thread for this so we can stop derailing this one :P
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I'd better start a new thread for this so we can stop derailing this one :P

We can always derail that one and talk about the worst anime we've seen :lol:
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I'd better start a new thread for this so we can stop derailing this one :P

We can always derail that one and talk about the worst anime we've seen :lol:

You'd be surprised by the kind of rabbit hole you end up tumbling down when you look into the most obscure 70's super robot anime and the merchandise it had. :P

Although I think some of those have received a small resurgence thanks to an orchestrated effort to bring them back into consciousness, I think shows like UFO Warrior Daiapolon and Mechander were recently shown in re-runs on Japanese television. I think Ginguiser might've been one as well.

If you think vintage Transformers are expensive, you should see the prices on stuff like the Jumbo Machinder Spazer from Grendizer, I recall somebody having paid a five figure sum for one of those. Hell, even some of the modern releases have gone up in price like crazy. Even relatively mainstream releases like some of the Soul of Chogokin entries seem to return to their OOP prices despite multiple re-releases, like Godmars or Combattler.
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