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happycube
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080  Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 22:53 |
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IIRC this player was the basis for the CLD 95/97, and it's the first of it's class to have the 4fsc/9mhz TBC. In other words, a bit of a hidden gem, aside from that pesky chroma noise. 
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acuozzo
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080  Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 04:33 |
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gumbyandpals wrote: Composite is recombined. I haven't checked closely to see how much delay it has if any. I just automatically correct for it when I put a new player into my system so I don't really think twice about it. Interesting! It doesn't look like it's recombined in the circuit and block diagrams. Weird! o_O https://www.dropbox.com/s/p3af1m7xvgcpk ... ervice.pdf
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gumbyandpals
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080  Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 05:04 |
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I looked at the circuit diagram to make that determination. Sure looks combined to me  Trace it back from the video out jack and you'll see where the Y and C are combined.
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acuozzo
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080  Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 05:51 |
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gumbyandpals wrote: I looked at the circuit diagram to make that determination. Sure looks combined to me  Trace it back from the video out jack and you'll see where the Y and C are combined. Damn, you're right!  Does VE have a pattern for Y/C delay? If the CLD-3080 has any delay, you can correct it with the DPS-290. You have one of those, right?
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gumbyandpals
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080  Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 18:58 |
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VE has a delay pattern near the end of chapter 15. It looks like two red vertical bars with a white and yellow background. I do have a DPS-290 but I also have a video delay line that I use on the chroma half of the S-video input to my TV. 74zkGKwBMp2)PUo(g~~_35.JPG)
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acuozzo
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080  Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 21:00 |
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gumbyandpals wrote: VE has a delay pattern near the end of chapter 15. It looks like two red vertical bars with a white and yellow background. I do have a DPS-290 but I also have a video delay line that I use on the chroma half of the S-video input to my TV. 74zkGKwBMp2)PUo(g~~_35.JPG) I have one of those as well. Can you please check to see if the CLD-3080 exhibits any Y/C delay? I'd appreciate it! 
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acuozzo
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080  Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 21:01 |
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happycube wrote: It looks like the comb filter is on a separate board, so it's theoretically possible to mod it out... or maybe take one off a scrapped CLD-97. Does it look like the comb filter board actually does anything meaningful to the signal?
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080  Posted: 31 Jan 2014, 15:28 |
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acuozzo wrote: Can you please check to see if the CLD-3080 exhibits any Y/C delay? I'd appreciate it! I don't really have an accurate way of determining this at the moment. My TV introduces a delay internally which is why I have the delay line on the input. I'd have to make sure I have a source with no delay to calibrate that and then check the 3080, but I can't be sure any of my sources are perfect so you see my dilemma 
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Post subject: Re: [CLD-3080] Player Review  Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 17:07 |
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This is the player I use on my CRT TV. I have it connected through composite on video and audio. The only player I'd use with S-Video is my Pioneer CLD-99. I like the picture the CLD-3080 gives off a lot. I can't decide if I prefer the CLD-99 or CLD-3080. They are close in image quality, but I feel like the CLD-3080 gives off a beautiful, analog-looking image, while the CLD-99 is trying to be more like a DVD. That's just my opinion. Someone else might disagree. On eBay, both these players sell for a lot nowadays, unless you find a deal. I did pay a pretty penny for my CLD-99 years ago on eBay. I paid $506, and now I see it selling for a lot more.
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