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Author:  powerofld [ 22 Dec 2018, 05:34 ]
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happycube wrote:
Any idea what the source disk is for that test?

I think the X0 is the only player that got everything 'right' from a signal processing POV - I'm not sure about the static/power sensitivity thing, but it's sad that when it does break, it's generally impossible to repair. :(


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Test disk →

This is because X0 was manufactured
I was using it at the Pioneer Tokorozawa plant (Japan)
It is a test disk.
(Signals are recorded only in the center)
Author:  powerofld [ 22 Dec 2018, 05:39 ]
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kencol wrote:
powerofld thanks for posting. Do you have a scan of the full review you can post or upload? Don't worry about translation.



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Yes

That's it
I am not good at English.
I'm sorry

These articles are very fun to understand

wrap up

MUSE of X 0 is more than HLD-1000
Different dimensions of quality

Reproducibility of minute signal, freshness of color
, Intonation of dynamic gradation

The sharpness of focus is the best

X0 also improves sound quality
Compared to X1, the amount of information of sonority increases, overwhelming presence

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Author:  kencol [ 23 Dec 2018, 15:57 ]
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These old player test shootouts are great. The Perfect Vision used to do them and I was sure there must have been the equivalent in Japan. If you have any more then please post!
Author:  powerofld [ 25 Dec 2018, 07:27 ]
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sorry
I do not own many magazines

First pioneer made
LD-1000 (LD-1100)

Full analog machine
LD-S1

The best ever
LD-X 0

I organized the LD player
LD-W1 and other players
I handed it over to others

I cherish these three remaining cars

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Author:  powerofld [ 25 Dec 2018, 07:35 ]
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I will not own more LD players any more

I spent the expenses to maintain X 0
It is the best one
Operation and appearance are in the best condition

My next step
Plasma TV made by Pioneer
You will get and compare
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Player
Pioneer LD-1000 (1981)
Pioneer LD-V1000 (1984)
Pioneer LD-S1 (1986)
Pioneer HLD-X 0 (1995)

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Author:  powerofld [ 25 Dec 2018, 10:38 ]
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HLD-X 0: playback

HLD-X 0 (setting: Normal)
↓ VBS
Scaler
DVDO iScan DUO (setting: normal)
↓ HDMI (1080p60)
Display
Panasonic TH-32 LX 75 S (LCD)

Compared to analog machines
Dramatically improving

Digitally correct time axis
TBS is wonderful

A striped pattern appears in red color
There is no HLD-X 0

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Author:  powerofld [ 25 Dec 2018, 10:45 ]
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STARWARS EP 1

I feel
The disc which digitally processed the original film was feeling block noise (rough image)

For example
PILF-2071 THX version
SF-148-1196 Special Collection

But HLD-X 0 does not let them feel
You can appreciate it with wonderful processing

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Author:  forper [ 27 Dec 2018, 10:11 ]
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powerofld wrote:
happycube wrote:
Any idea what the source disk is for that test?

I think the X0 is the only player that got everything 'right' from a signal processing POV - I'm not sure about the static/power sensitivity thing, but it's sad that when it does break, it's generally impossible to repair. :(


--------------------------

Test disk →

This is because X0 was manufactured
I was using it at the Pioneer Tokorozawa plant (Japan)
It is a test disk.
(Signals are recorded only in the center)


Cool, I lived in Tokorozawa for 2 years...sometime in the past...
Author:  admin [ 15 Jan 2020, 16:47 ]
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Just made up my mind and decided to give this HLD-X0 a chance:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w361181092

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I'll be joining the X0 club soon!
Only took my 20 years since I got a LD-S9 directly from Nicolas Santini's hands in Tokyo.

Since I have a few duplicates and changing inputs on a Radiance is easy, I'll try to make a X9/X0 comparison on discs I have twice (like Dolby Digital Experience or Silence of the Lambs MUSE).

Julien
Author:  nissling [ 15 Jan 2020, 18:37 ]
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Wonderful to see that you're getting an X0 Julien! I was looking for one for a very long time but due to financial issues I never ended up buying one and today I'm nowhere near as into the format as back then so it's not really justifiable. Still it would be very, very interesting to experience the player at some point.
Author:  laserfanhld-gb [ 15 Jan 2020, 18:55 ]
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What a gorgeous looking beast that is, I'll be totally honest and admit to being insanely jealous regarding your superb acquisition. Looking forward to your findings when you get around to a back to back comparison with the X9 Julien :thumbup:
Author:  signofzeta [ 15 Jan 2020, 21:17 ]
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Since you’re back in Japan you’d be a fool not too. Most of the impracticalities and costs associated with X-0 ownership become hugely worse outside of its home land. You can probably buy it for less than what shipping back to EU/NA would be and you can be sure it doesn’t break during transport.
Author:  rein-o [ 15 Jan 2020, 22:03 ]
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Never knew they had BNC connectors on the back.
So only a handful of early top load players to my knowledge and this have BNC connectors?
Author:  signofzeta [ 15 Jan 2020, 22:32 ]
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rein-o wrote:
Never knew they had BNC connectors on the back.
So only a handful of early top load players to my knowledge and this have BNC connectors?


Some industrial decks only have BNC.
Author:  substance [ 16 Jan 2020, 02:20 ]
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Ld-S2 has a bnc output. In fact, the X0 is GR44 the enhanced universal soldier Van Damme and the S2 is Luc Deveraux.

Julien, welcome to the club. You have reached the LD nirvana! Having tried every possible player/video processor combinations under the sun, I can confidently tell you your X0 + 2144 is as good as it gets by a long margin. Enjoy them!
Author:  admin [ 19 Jan 2020, 10:25 ]
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substance wrote:
Julien, welcome to the club.


Happy to report that after a few P5 errors on MUSE discs, the X0 now plays everything smoothly (it's so quiet!) and as expected.

All I did to make the P5 disappear is letting the player go through CAV/CLV discs entirely to make the parts inside (belts, rubber, grease) get to move again as expected after years of storage.

Had the same behavior when getting my S9 and X9 out of storage: P5, U1, clamping somehow getting stuck halfway before giving up and ejecting.
Just played around for a while (open/close, play/stop/Side B/A/B/A, etc.) and eventually the mechanics will revert to their normal selves. The insurance company was glad I didn't have to purchase replacement units for both in the end.

Julien
Author:  jd213 [ 20 Jan 2020, 08:27 ]
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Glad you actually got it! I wouldn't feel comfortable buying something that expensive from a seller with a feedback rating of 9 unless I could see it being tested and pick it up in person.
Author:  admin [ 20 Jan 2020, 15:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer HLD-X0 Review
jd213 wrote:
I wouldn't feel comfortable buying something that expensive from a seller with a feedback rating of 9 .


That was also a concern but I asked questions via the Q/A and got quick, precise answers.
Seller also successfully sold a LD-X1 in the same condition not long ago.

Haven't seen a full set sold on YAJ in a while.

Last complete/mint one sold for JPY 368K but it included a MSC-4000 and 2 demo discs.
Complete but with few scratches went for JPY 260K.
Mint but missing remote/box/etc. went for JPY 232K.
Even a Frankenstein'ed one (wood panel, remade plates, no accessories, not tested) went for JPY 198K.

Everything selling below (JPY 50K~150K) was either junk (malfunction), untested, scratched, no remote/box.

The usual A/V used shops (AVAC, Audio Union, Hifido, Afroaudio, Rakuten, Amazon Japan) are all out of X0s for months, sold in various states from 180K to 273K.
None on Mercari or YAJ right now.

My conclusion was that 200K~250K was the current market range. I tried 200K.
If he put the remote control, manual and box on the pictures he might have gotten a higher price for it.
Also titled "HLD-XO" instead of "HLD-X0", might have helped escaping exact searches.

Shipped from Osaka (42Kg, $28 for a 24-hour delivery!), it was too far to go and check!

Julien
Author:  mimylovesjapan [ 21 Jan 2020, 10:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer HLD-X0 Review
Congratulation julien !
Be careful ! Never plug it on a electrical power strip. Mine died like this 2 years ago...
I wait for your comparaison between HLD-X9 and HLD-X0 !
Author:  happycube [ 21 Jan 2020, 17:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer HLD-X0 Review
I don't usually go for such things, but would a power conditioner work well (and w/o static etc?) for an X0?
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