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 Post subject: Kramer VP-773A soft picture quality
PostPosted: 05 Apr 2024, 15:16 
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I recently acquired a Panasonic DMR-EZ49V at a charity shop. I got it mainly for transferring VHS tapes to DVD. It also had an SVideo port on it and I had never tried the output from my DVL-919. I was surprised to find that it looked quite a bit sharper than my Kramer VP-773A. I also tried the composite port on the Panasonic and that looked sharper too. I'll post some images here as a comparison, but it seems that the Kramer is softening the image somewhat, maybe it's a setting I have on it?

I can't figure out how to post images directly to this post. Here is a drop box where I have posted 3 images of the same image and the videos as well. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/t7ejgc88 ... 49peq&dl=0

Kramer VP-773A:

Kramer (480P) -> Onkyo NR626 (1080P) -> lG-C1

Settings:
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Deinterlacing - Method - Motion Adaptive
Deinterlacing - Sync - Current Field
Film Mode -Follow Input
Diagonal Correction - 000
MD Sensitivity - Level 3
Picture -Dither - Mode 0

Panasonic SVideo and Composite:

The Panasonic DMR-EZ49V is set to 1080p so is likely doing all the upscaling and deinterlacing. I have tried to read the service manual to figure out what chip it is using to do this but had no luck, I found it too confusing.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Maybe it's just that the upscaling that the onkyo uses is just not that good?
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 Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773A soft picture quality
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2024, 05:29 
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What are your NR settings under Enhance?
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 Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773A soft picture quality
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2024, 10:18 
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cplusplus wrote:
What are your NR settings under Enhance?


Forgot to include that part, just double checked. They're all set to zero.
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 Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773A soft picture quality
PostPosted: 12 Jul 2026, 16:43 
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vertebrae2571 wrote:
I recently acquired a Panasonic DMR-EZ49V at a charity shop. I got it mainly for transferring VHS tapes to DVD. It also had an SVideo port on it and I had never tried the output from my DVL-919. I was surprised to find that it looked quite a bit sharper than my Kramer VP-773A. I also tried the composite port on the Panasonic and that looked sharper too. I'll post some images here as a comparison, but it seems that the Kramer is softening the image somewhat, maybe it's a setting I have on it?

I can't figure out how to post images directly to this post. Here is a drop box where I have posted 3 images of the same image and the videos as well. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/t7ejgc88 ... 49peq&dl=0

Kramer VP-773A:

Kramer (480P) -> Onkyo NR626 (1080P) -> lG-C1

Settings:
PROCESS -
Deinterlacing - Method - Motion Adaptive
Deinterlacing - Sync - Current Field
Film Mode -Follow Input
Diagonal Correction - 000
MD Sensitivity - Level 3
Picture -Dither - Mode 0

Panasonic SVideo and Composite:

The Panasonic DMR-EZ49V is set to 1080p so is likely doing all the upscaling and deinterlacing. I have tried to read the service manual to figure out what chip it is using to do this but had no luck, I found it too confusing.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Maybe it's just that the upscaling that the onkyo uses is just not that good?


The posting is a little bit older but might still be of interest:

As far as I see it you should at least have posted the Scaling / Sharpening / Noise Reduction settings of the Onkyo as the Kramer ist outputting only 480p. Configured that way it cannot really be compared to your Panasonic DMR that does the job completely. A fair comparison would have been to scale with the Kramer and fiddle with it's sharpening settings.
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 Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773A soft picture quality
PostPosted: 24 Jul 2026, 17:02 
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takachingching wrote:

The posting is a little bit older but might still be of interest:

As far as I see it you should at least have posted the Scaling / Sharpening / Noise Reduction settings of the Onkyo as the Kramer ist outputting only 480p. Configured that way it cannot really be compared to your Panasonic DMR that does the job completely. A fair comparison would have been to scale with the Kramer and fiddle with it's sharpening settings.


It's been a while since I used this setup so my memory may be wrong. I am fairly certain I had the Onkyo setup for only upscale from 480p to 1080p and every setting like noise reduction and sharpness was set to zero. I think my conclusion on this was that the DMR looked sharper, but it almost over-sharpened the image. You could quite easily see ringing and artifacts, which I found distracting.

I eventually moved onto the MadVR PC that I posted about in a separate thread, I preferred it as it had way more options to tinker with. My current setup is a B&O Beovision 32, which I think has been my favourite way to experience Laserdisc. With the CRT TV I focus way less on trying to tinker with the settings and just enjoy the film. There's something nice about just putting in the disc, the TV sets the correct letter-boxing crop and just plays.
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 Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773A soft picture quality
PostPosted: 24 Jul 2026, 18:24 
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vertebrae2571 wrote:
takachingching wrote:

The posting is a little bit older but might still be of interest:

As far as I see it you should at least have posted the Scaling / Sharpening / Noise Reduction settings of the Onkyo as the Kramer ist outputting only 480p. Configured that way it cannot really be compared to your Panasonic DMR that does the job completely. A fair comparison would have been to scale with the Kramer and fiddle with it's sharpening settings.


It's been a while since I used this setup so my memory may be wrong. I am fairly certain I had the Onkyo setup for only upscale from 480p to 1080p and every setting like noise reduction and sharpness was set to zero. I think my conclusion on this was that the DMR looked sharper, but it almost over-sharpened the image. You could quite easily see ringing and artifacts, which I found distracting.

I eventually moved onto the MadVR PC that I posted about in a separate thread, I preferred it as it had way more options to tinker with. My current setup is a B&O Beovision 32, which I think has been my favourite way to experience Laserdisc. With the CRT TV I focus way less on trying to tinker with the settings and just enjoy the film. There's something nice about just putting in the disc, the TV sets the correct letter-boxing crop and just plays.


Bang and Olufsen were fantastic CRT tv's back in the days, really nice picture and sound quality.
For laserdisc these TV's are great to enjoy a movie
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