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Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773 (773A, 773AMP) Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 11:17 |
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cplusplus wrote: I finally bought one of these. For my particular setup, it has made a substantial improvement in picture quality.
Better compared would you say - to using the old cheap Panasonic DVD Recorder idea ?
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Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773 (773A, 773AMP) Posted: 15 Jun 2022, 13:30 |
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cplusplus wrote: I was able to get a better picture without a Panasonic DVD Recorder, so I ran direct composite. There are a lot of variables in play, but at the very least the VP-773 offers substantially more settings, and in my case better picture quality. Thankyou C++ a straightforward appraisal ! I am going to be able to try out an Extron dsc301 shortly (just lucked on a working unit for only 35$) after its delivered. Will be on the lookout for a 773 to come by my way but for a steal if possible - will give it a whirl - especially keen if the Extron shows any improvement for me.
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Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773 (773A, 773AMP) Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 03:44 |
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david92210 wrote: Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the Kramer VP-730? It's Inexpensive on ebay. Or, should I save up for the 773? Are you finding the the JVC DVD Recorder now not so great with your Samsung TV?...is it still better than the Panasonic DMR-ES15 in your opinion? The 770 at a glance looks to have similar functions/features to the 773 - idk if they are the same under the hood! Are they really that much cheaper than the 773.
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Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773 (773A, 773AMP) Posted: 08 Nov 2022, 21:59 |
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david92210 wrote: I couldn't resist. I just bought a kramer vp-730 on ebay. It should be delivered in a few days. I'll update once I have it set up and let you know how it does. Fingers crossed. FYI: I did have an email conversation with someone at Kramer Electronics. They said the only difference between the vp-730 & vp-773 is the numbers and types of inputs and outputs. The VP-730 does not have a 3D comb filter. Its a pretty big difference.
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Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773 (773A, 773AMP) Posted: 21 Nov 2022, 20:04 |
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noogie-man wrote: I have noticed some Kramer scalers also have TBC time base correction improving picture quality. Crystalio and Lumagen never had TBC on their scalers. The VPS-3800 video inputs are clocked by a 1ppm TXCO which I'm guessing is more stable than a TBC. I'm not really sure. Here is a snippet from the brochure: Quote: Video circuits and audio delay circuits are clocked by 1ppm high precision low jitter TCXOs (temperature compensated crystal oscillators) and produce the highest quality standard of video and audio output. The Faroudja DVP series has a TBC. At least the 1010 does via the Fli2000S chip. Attachment:
FAROUDJA FLI2000S Data Sheet.jpg [ 48.93 KiB | Viewed 5958 times ]
Also, you may want to investigate the ADC chip being used as they also employ TBC like functionality called ADLLT (Adaptive Digital Line Length Tracking). noogie-man wrote: Wonder why Kramer skimped on RCA inputs? Because it was like 2015 and no one else cares about composite video. No one cares about us dude. We don't give them any economic reason to.
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Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773 (773A, 773AMP) Posted: 31 Jan 2023, 15:51 |
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pbiancardi wrote: How is the Kramer setup in your system? I have found that it is pretty useless for anything besides comb filter so I have Kramer 480i -> DVDO VP50 (deinterlacing) 480p -> Oppo BDP-103D (upscales to 1080p as my capture card doesn't like 480p) -> MadVR (aspect ratio control / upscale from 1080p to 4096 x 2160 for my projector). Hello there. I Just felt in the Laserdisc world few weeks ago I'm a bit of newbie with the video signal process so please forgive my ignorance. I bought few days ago a VP-773, got pretty decent results with the comb filter, compared with the one of my 4k SonyTV, but I'm really curious about your setup, you seem to know your stuff so I am probably missing something... Let me explain : You output in 480i from the Kramer to be deinterlaced with another unit, why do do that ? Because, If I am not wrong, there is now way to turn off the deinterlacing process in the VP-773, which means that you deinterlace then reinterlace inside the VP-773 to output in 480i, and then you deinterlace again in your DVDO... Why to not output directly in 480p from the VP-773 ? What are your settings in the VP-773 ? Mine is : # Deinterlace - mode : Motion adaptive - sync : older field # Noise Filter : - mosquito NR : 0 - combing NR : 0 - temporal NR : 3 - Block NR : 0 And I am also wondering, what about the filter, which unit in your chain is enhancing the signal ? It would be really appreciated if you could enlighten me
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Post subject: Re: Kramer VP-773 (773A, 773AMP) Posted: 01 Jul 2023, 22:46 |
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audioboyz1973 wrote: Maybe it's somehow defective/broken but a failure in my system.
When I want NR (Mosquito in front of Lumagen) I'll totally still go with the eval board over this disappointment. So I'm totally going to eat my words. Pulled it back out for a tinker and seems the issue was 'Film Mode' in the deinterlacing settings was set to off, mucking that up where 3:2 pulldown was required. It just doesn't look like deinmterlacing error as I'm familiar with it after feeding out at 480i and running through a separate processor/scaler.
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