Good day guys,

Can anyone advise on this scaler: DVDO iScan VP50PRO.

Would this be any good for laserdisc picture quality?

I believe the SDi input would be the way to go, but have no experience on this, so the advice from those who would know would be much appreciated.

I shall look forward to your replies.

Thankyou in advance.

Yeah this is a top notch machine also for LaserDisc sources.
Tho I am not sure how exactly you are going to get SDI from LD...
You'll be most likely using composite or s-video.
I know a german fellow that uses the 50Pro together with an X9.
And he always seemed to be satisfied.

Good Morning lons_vex,

Thank you very much for the confirmation of what I thought, and I will also be using this for my HLD X9 amongst other Elite players.

Thank you again

Regards

I'm looking into these devices as well now. I see some of them going cheaply.

DVDO iScan VP50 Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSG7HUaeT7k

Good afternoon laserbite34,

1) Crystallio II Scaler.
2) DVDO iScan VP50PRO

Both of the above scalers have been highly recommended by many others but, the Crystallio II is especially recommended by those serious about Laserdisc replay picture quality.

Thank you for the youtube footage friend much appreciated.

Regards to you

Yeah seems like a lot of AVS are getting rid of there scalers as some can't handle 3-D bring it on! The prices on eBay are cheap as chips some under £200.00 and I can do with scaler for the Laserdisc player and the mosquito thingy to do away with edges and noise bring it. These devices would normally go for near a grand brand new.

A review on one of many products 2007 five years old and good enough for Laserdisc or the odd DVD. 3-D bluray not interested, Laserdisc yes very interested in seeing some new video life breathed into video image.

hometheaterhifi
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_1 ... art-1.html

The DVDO iScan VP50 PRO retails for around between £1,400 to £1,800. .roughly that is, and the Crystallio II's retail price is around £2,800.

My prime goal is to get the best picture for Laserdisc from this.

I have a clever box that was sold to me with the HLD-X9, of which does an amazing job with the picture grain on larger screens as demo'd to me, and I was amazed at how much grain had been removed.

Lets hope we both have one of these each soon Friend, and then we can post our results.

Regards

Well Shhh if you can it get for a few well depends on the sellers concealed price I think under £200.00 if lucky and that would be a steal for a good device that would cost a bomb years ago.

Afternoon laserbite34,

Yes I remember hearing and reading about when scalers used to cost thousands upon thousands in the mid 1990's, but with todays refined tech, and the fact that it's now common place and in many devices that they can no longer ask for ''by far'' the cost's that only a select few could get their hands on years ago.

Regards to you

^^ Agree I kinder forgotten about these devices 4 to 6 years ago when reading and seeing a video of up-scaler on secrets home theatre. Even some AVR have up-scalers fitted in them.

The DVDOs are good scalers and de-interlacers, but awful comb filters. Make sure you have an intermediary comb filter between your LD player and the scaler. Also, if you are going to go for noise reduction, I'd recommend against mosquito noise reduction, because, if I remember correctly, it's typically a Gaussian filter.

Yeah its even visible when squinting the eyes on the original all the dots go smooth too smooth in fact, when squinting really hard until it goes blued, That's not good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Halft ... n_Blur.jpg

I do have a Crystalio II in use with my X9.
One thing that annoys me: There is no possibility to force film mode.
The other thing that is annoying: There will not be a firmware update anymore.
I don't remember if there will still be new firmware for the Vp50 Pro, but maybe...

There is one box that outshines both the CII and the 50Pro when it comes to upscaling
SD sources, and that is the Radiance. It's SRP is a tad pricier than the other two units,
but (I have never seen one in person, but from what I have heard) it's scaling engine
is the best available currently on the market. There are several different models XD/XG/XS...

Might be worth investigating before you spent a lot of money on a 50Pro.
What is true: The DVDO units don't have great comb-filters.
The CII has a neat comb filter, but no support anymore (want to buy mine? :O).
The Lumagen Radiance is probably the best investment if you are planning to invest a lot of money,
for a unit with support, the best scaling engine that should be able to last a few years without
complains. Actually, the scaler inside my Pioneer Kuro does not need to hide from the CII picture,
if set up properly. But of course an external scaling box has much more options and it is dedicated
to optimize performance on one thing only, while "onboard" units are just an add-on.

Funny extra the CII has is the internal media player, which is a hard drive on which you can store DVD ISO
images (vobs), you upload them through network cable using ftp software, and then you basically have a
full digital dvd player with SDI and HDMI out if you like, included for free so to say.

Cheers.

50Pro is definitely the way to go. I am using a VP30 which does not perform quite well in regards to the picture quality even if it is fitted with the 102 deinterlacing board.

As a result I bought a lumagen HDQ which gives promising result at the moment, especially its comb filter.

From what I gather with ^^^ lons_vex up its got more consumer cons than there are pros.

Lumagen radiance uses the same comb filter dvdo vp30 uses. Its a 2d 3line super adaptive comb filter. I got this info from lumagen. Radiance has the second gen gennum chip for deinterlacing and scaling. It uses a inhouse algorithm for scaling. Its interface is a bit more difficult to use but offers the best color management system. It can be upgraded to hdmi 1.4 with 3d support.
Crystalio 2 uses TI 2d/3d 5line superadaptive comb filter(best in class) you have the choice of using faroudja fli2300 deinterlacer with its analog noise reduction, truelife, etc settings available( more adjustments available to user than on faroudja nrs) or first gen gennum vxp. Gennum vxp is used for scaling with stock algorithm. C2 has hdmi 1.1 so it wont ever do 3d or lossless hd audio.

These are the useful adjustments C2 has and no other device does
Faroudja analog noise reduction off low mid high super
Dot crowl filter off adaptive low mid high
Chroma trap filter off 1 notch 2 notch 3 notch 4 notch
3d comb filter enable disable
3d comb filter adjust luma gain 0->100 chroma gain 0->100 luma coring 0->100 chroma coring 0->100
Dcdi enable disable
Truelife adjust with 10 parameter 0->100 (detail,detail treshold,luma edge threshold etc..)
Film mode 0 video to 10 film
Film detect small window(for lbx or tv programing with banners) full window

Now the bad stuff
Hdmi 1.1 means if you hook up your bd player to it. It wont pass dts hd ma or dolby truehd. It can only do lpcm, dd and dts. It will not pass or process 3d.
Its deinterlacing with gennum 1st gen is not as good with some wierd anime cadence. Lumagen and dvdo beats it here.

What about the DVDO Edge Green? It seem to have all the functions of a VP50Pro and being a lot cheaper & newer too?

The Edge has no aspect ratio control, which is a MUST if you are going to display a 4:3 letterboxed LD on your 16:9 display correctly.

TLK

are you sure? it's stated on the functions list

* Aspect Ratio Controls

also in a video review i saw, they say it can do both aspect ratio controls, and per pixel zooming, so not sure what you are talking about? =)

check the video, and go to time code: 4:00 -- pretty much shows you the aspect ratio control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAtU65Xkb9s