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tkmedia
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Post subject: Re: How many are satisfied playing LDs on their LCD display?  Posted: 11 Dec 2011, 07:28 |
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I dont have LCD television... on my setups they look perfectly fine on 42" plasma, direct view 34 inch CRT, 9 inch CRT projectors, and LCoS Projector!
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philburque46
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Post subject: Re: How many are satisfied playing LDs on their LCD display?  Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 20:31 |
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I watch discs on my 42 inch off brand LCD using my CLD-D704 and I find the quality to be very pleasing. I have a DVD recorder and did try using it to upscale to 480p over component, but I don't have as many options to adjust on component as I do composite, and I don't like how it looked, so I just stick with my straight composite connection. Maybe my TV just has a really good scaler, or at least a decent one.
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invenio
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Post subject: Re: How many are satisfied playing LDs on their LCD display?  Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 20:38 |
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philburque46 wrote: I watch discs on my 42 inch off brand LCD using my CLD-D704 and I find the quality to be very pleasing. I have a DVD recorder and did try using it to upscale to 480p over component, but I don't have as many options to adjust on component as I do composite, and I don't like how it looked, so I just stick with my straight composite connection. Maybe my TV just has a really good scaler, or at least a decent one. There are probably good LD player / TV combinations that just "work well together." In the early 2000's they released a lot of high end scalers when HDTV's really started to take off but a lot of content was still in standard def. Sometimes you can find these in high end audio/video dealers. They would often cost a few thousand dollars but now you can buy them used for much less. I use the scaler in my receiver which uses a Reon scaler chip. This was of course a $2k receiver when it came out so it ought to have better components than something bought at walmart. So far it's worked really well and the picture retains its "analog" look which is nice.
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invenio
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Post subject: Re: How many are satisfied playing LDs on their LCD display?  Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 22:42 |
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laserbite34 wrote: Well I only have an LCD projector that can only go up to 1080i HD but for LD its somewhat down in the lower grade and its a bit smeary looking, so I go with Panasonic CRT 32” direct-view for watching laserdiscs very rare I might ever use the LCD projector.
As for tweaking around with brightness contrast levels and colour, I haven’t given it any thought as yet?
^^^Some video scale devices are bit expensive.
I might try something in moment with Laserdisc on the projector. One important thing is calibration, especially if you watch DVD/blu-ray content on the same display. Most LD material is mastered at 8.5 IRE vs 0 IRE for other media so images without proper brightness and contrast levels are going to look very poor. Calibration should be the first step before any hardware changes (in my opinion). What's nice about my Epson 8700ub projector is that is has preset memory settings so I can switch from one setup to the next very easily. Also, picking up the LD Video Essentials calibration disk is a must. I would say it's the most important LD in my entire collection as it allows for good picture quality on all my other LD's. As for my DVD/Blu-ray calibration I used Avia (I like how they have the 3 filter setup vs THX's single filter).
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laserbite34
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Post subject: Re: How many are satisfied playing LDs on their LCD display?  Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 23:03 |
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invenio wrote: laserbite34 wrote: Well I only have an LCD projector that can only go up to 1080i HD but for LD its somewhat down in the lower grade and its a bit smeary looking, so I go with Panasonic CRT 32” direct-view for watching laserdiscs very rare I might ever use the LCD projector.
As for tweaking around with brightness contrast levels and colour, I haven’t given it any thought as yet?
^^^Some video scale devices are bit expensive.
I might try something in moment with Laserdisc on the projector. One important thing is calibration, especially if you watch DVD/blu-ray content on the same display. Most LD material is mastered at 8.5 IRE vs 0 IRE for other media so images without proper brightness and contrast levels are going to look very poor. Calibration should be the first step before any hardware changes (in my opinion). What's nice about my Epson 8700ub projector is that is has preset memory settings so I can switch from one setup to the next very easily. Also, picking up the LD Video Essentials calibration disk is a must. I would say it's the most important LD in my entire collection as it allows for good picture quality on all my other LD's. As for my DVD/Blu-ray calibration I used Avia (I like how they have the 3 filter setup vs THX's single filter). Well since I don’t have that option I have to manually adjust and it doesn’t bother me that much. I think they should stick this gadget you’re talking about as mandatory or better still stand-alone to be added onto AVR receivers for £100.00 pounds and no higher than £100.00. In the meantime and until I can figure how to get the camera to take a decent picture without the tint of green in the gray scale or whatever because I can’t see it but the camera is picking it up or its adding it to the picture. It can’t be lamp its hardly been used and lamps I found one for less than £100.00 new in the box on eBay and that’s about the right price! Also when pursing the laserdisc on Pioneer DVL-909 it doesn’t help as its adding in a bit of stepping noise. The CRT 32” is barely visible behind the bed sheet below. I left it turned on as I’m only going to have the projector on for a short while   STAR TREK II LCD projector http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCPVFelp ... ideo_titleI’m wondering if there might be something mildly up with LCD projector I like to get it open to clean carefully around the LCD and lens from the inside of any grim that might have built up inside over the years as it is second/hand with new at the time fitted lamp, which has hasn’t even had 100 hours use out for almost 3 years. I might watch one or two films on it from start to end but mostly use the CRT even for bluray as some aren’t worthy enough to be put on the projector and 2012 was one such film that I won’t get back my 2hrs + of lamp time. 
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invenio
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Post subject: Re: How many are satisfied playing LDs on their LCD display?  Posted: 17 Feb 2012, 14:38 |
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ollieh82 wrote: im using a LG 47inch LCD for my LD playback. I do have a Onkyo with a built in upscaler but it gives mixed results so instead i run it direct to the TV, it plays at 480i and ive adjusted the contrast, brightness, colour, sharpness and the backlight to get some good results. I also set the noise reduction up too the highest setting. I also use my Onkyo to upscale the image onto a 150" projector and I get almost no artifacting. What upscaling chip does your Onkyo use and what model Onkyo is it (My model is the TX-SR875, it uses a Silicon Optix REON VX Video Processing upscaler)? I think it's absolutely critical to use a good upscaler when going from standard def analog to 1080p digital and the lack of good scaler is probably the number one reason why LD often does not look good on high def displays. Unfortunately, descent upscalers cost a lot of money and people don't want to invest in this. However, most people are also spending thousands on their TV's so if you watch a lot of LD, it may be a worthwhile investment in the long run.
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