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C2 Crystalio 2 4:3 Letterbox with subtitles position
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Author:  sonicboom [ 19 Apr 2020, 16:51 ]
Post subject:  C2 Crystalio 2 4:3 Letterbox with subtitles position
Hi everyone I have a question about how to properly position a 4:3 letterbox image with subtitles outside of the frame on the bottom.

Right now, a 2.35:1 movie works perfectly on my 4K when I select the 4:3 Letterbox option from the AR menu on the C2. However, I recently put in a movie with English translation subtitles that I actually want to read but they're cut off.

I tried to use the Image|Position setting on the C2 to move the image up on the screen but the subtitles are still cut off in the same place as if the 4:3 LB setting is really just a zoom so it moved the entire zoomed image up and the subs are still unreadable.

I had to resort to using the 4:3 AR setting and pillarboxed the movie so I can read the subtitles. I would like to find a solution to this even though this won't be an issue that pops up often and it did actually look slightly better being smaller.

I have the same movie on DVD but opted for the LD and had some regrets in this regard. I know the DVD would have overlaid subtitles and a full 2.35:1 image, albeit with DD 2.0 sound....meh.

Is there anyway to keep a 2.35 image and 2 lines of subtitles without pillarbox mode on a Crystalio 2?

Thanks!
Author:  signofzeta [ 19 Apr 2020, 17:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: C2 Crystalio 2 4:3 Letterbox with subtitles position
You’re taking about a movie with burned in subtitles, is that right?

Unless I’m misunderstanding your post I think there’s nothing you can do. A 4:3 image letterboxes with subtitles is effectively a 4:3 feature. You need it all except for what’s in the upper matte. If you zoom you’ll cut off the bottom where they put the subtitles. There’s no way around it, simple geometry, not a technical problem at all and there’s no technical fix for it.
Author:  sonicboom [ 19 Apr 2020, 18:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: C2 Crystalio 2 4:3 Letterbox with subtitles position
Thanks Zeta. Yes burned in subs. I'm hoping there is some voodoo to make it work but I suspect, as you said, there is nothing that can be done.

I read so much about people using their processors to hide/frame out subs on Japanese discs but never the other way around I guess.
Author:  admin [ 20 Apr 2020, 05:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: C2 Crystalio 2 4:3 Letterbox with subtitles position
sonicboom wrote:
I read so much about people using their processors to hide/frame out subs on Japanese discs but never the other way around I guess.


I do that too but only on letterboxed versions where the subtitles are (or mostly are) in the lower black bar.
Then you just trim the picture right below the base of the image and they will disappear.

On my Lumagen R2144 with A B C D preset for Input 12 (LD) I used D to select Digital Audio and crop subtitles on 2.35:1 picture.

Julien
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