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Which Radiance Model do you own?
 Radiance 2124  0%  0%  [ 0 ]
 Radiance 2144  62%  62%  [ 13 ]
 Radiance 2022  0%  0%  [ 0 ]
 Radiance 2042  0%  0%  [ 0 ]
 Radiance XE3D  5%  5%  [ 1 ]
 Radiance XE3D+  0%  0%  [ 0 ]
 Radiance XS3D  10%  10%  [ 2 ]
 Radiance XS3D+  10%  10%  [ 2 ]
 Radiance XD  14%  14%  [ 3 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Lumagen Radiance 2124 2144 owners
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 Post subject: Re: Lumagen Radiance 2124 2144 owners
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Hi. I have read this thread with intrigue and am interested in procuring a 2144. I reached out to CurtPalme.com and they were very responsive, but basically told me they have no options for getting a 2144. Does anyone here have a lead on a new or used unit? I know that Substance and Admin (Julien) mentioned that they had direct contact to Lumagen (Jim). Any chance one of you can help me with getting info on a 2144? I am trying to build a setup with an HLD-X0 and really need the 2144 to make it right. Thank you in advance for any help.

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 Post subject: Re: Lumagen Radiance 2124 2144 owners
PostPosted: 15 Jun 2019, 23:11 
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mth2k wrote:
Hi. I have read this thread with intrigue and am interested in procuring a 2144. I reached out to CurtPalme.com and they were very responsive, but basically told me they have no options for getting a 2144. Does anyone here have a lead on a new or used unit? I know that Substance and Admin (Julien) mentioned that they had direct contact to Lumagen (Jim). Any chance one of you can help me with getting info on a 2144? I am trying to build a setup with an HLD-X0 and really need the 2144 to make it right. Thank you in advance for any help.Mike

Welcome to joining the party late.

'Right' is of course a somewhat subjective concept in this situation. Perhaps there are other options like the C2 if you can't get your hands on a 2144? Either way sorry but mine are most definitely not for sale!!
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 Post subject: Re: Lumagen Radiance 2124 2144 owners
PostPosted: 16 Jun 2019, 01:49 
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Hi. I have read this thread with intrigue and am interested in procuring a 2144. I reached out to CurtPalme.com and they were very responsive, but basically told me they have no options for getting a 2144. Does anyone here have a lead on a new or used unit? I know that Substance and Admin (Julien) mentioned that they had direct contact to Lumagen (Jim). Any chance one of you can help me with getting info on a 2144? I am trying to build a setup with an HLD-X0 and really need the 2144 to make it right. Thank you in advance for any help.

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I can get you in contact with Jim. They take trade ins towards their new 4K models time to time. They refurbish these trade ins and offer for sale but typically not listed anywhere. I also use a HLD-X0 with my 2144 and haven't seen better picture from LD on any other setup.

You can email Jim@lumagen.com and mention my name Mahir Derman. PM me your full name to me and I will email Jim to look for your email. I don't make any commissions or benefit from this in any way. You will find 2124/44 owners very friendly and helpful. We will help you with the setup and tweaks later on your journey.

Like audioboyz mentions, your "only" other option is CII if you can find any. CII can be a tad sharper in the expense of combing artifacts. Also it would be solely for LDs as the rest of the hardware is pretty antiquated for anything newer.
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 Post subject: Re: Lumagen Radiance 2124 2144 owners
PostPosted: 16 Jun 2019, 02:02 
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Sent; thank you! I did see some of the screen caps from others using the CII and also the DVDO edge 101. They look really good, but as others have stated it's hard to gauge how these items work over the internet vs in your own setup. To Substance's point, I need the upscaler for other purposes like VHS and DVD, so 2144 still seems like the best bet.
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 Post subject: Re: Lumagen Radiance 2124 2144 owners
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I have a unit that I might sell if the price is right.
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 Post subject: Re: Lumagen Radiance 2124 2144 owners
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Thanks for the replies, all. I was able to find a 2144 and I should have it on Friday. I'm still working on the HLD-X0 but am optimistic.
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Probably a silly question but... would there be a way to "snapshot" whatever is the video buffer at that moment?

Maybe generating a local file that can be retrieved over USB?

It would be some much easier to compare various players/modes/filters/etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Lumagen Radiance 2124 2144 owners
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Not sure about the power-down thing, but I recently found that for input 11 & 12 it would not transfer the new name I input to the input select menu. It would store into memA ok (and display when selected) and show up on other menu displays like the status screen for example (when you press ok while menu not active) but the OS menu selection from pressing 'input' button still shows 'input 11/input 12. All other inputs work fine with this.


Found another issue with 11 and 12.

I put HLD-X9 straight to #12 and HLD-X9 via LG-1 to #11.

When I copied MEM A-D 12 to MEM A-D 11, only video settings for A and B were copied. not C and D.
Audio settings were not copied at all.

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Anyone doing a chain like LD -> ISCAN DUO -> Lumagen 44xx ?

This would allow for 4K input still, but obviously loose all the analog processing and would have to fall back to the iscan and input that to the lumagen.
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ddilts399 wrote:
Anyone doing a chain like LD -> ISCAN DUO -> Lumagen 44xx ?


I'm quite sure substance does use LD -> Lumagen (SD to 4K) -> Lumagen Pro (4k management, color space, etc.) -> display.

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Anyone doing a chain like LD -> ISCAN DUO -> Lumagen 44xx ?

This would allow for 4K input still, but obviously loose all the analog processing and would have to fall back to the iscan and input that to the lumagen.


Iscan Duo has the same ADV7800 for the analog section as the 2144. DVDO products are bit rough on analog video when scaling. Lumagen products on the other hand excels in scaling. Lumagen 44xx is not well optimized for anything below 1080p. Very few customers use sub-2K source nowadays so it is unlikely they will improve on this in the future. The best of both worlds setup is a 2144 for up to 1080p and a 44xx for the rest. You can try Iscan duo at 480p instead of a 2144 and Radiance 44xx to upscale all the way to 4K. This should come very close.
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Anyone doing a chain like LD -> ISCAN DUO -> Lumagen 44xx ?


I'm quite sure substance does use LD -> Lumagen (SD to 4K) -> Lumagen Pro (4k management, color space, etc.) -> display.

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I do LD-> Lumagen (SD to 2K) -> Lumagen Pro (2K to 4K, aspect ratio management, CMS, etc.)-> display

Cascaded scaling provides the best image. In Iscan Duo’s case, I don’t recommend any scaling in the DVDO.
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Thanks for the info, currently just using the ISCAN to get the signal into the digital domain and letting the JVC projector scale. Trying to decide on dropping the coin on the latest generation of lumagen. Cost is not for the faint of heart.
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Thanks for the info, currently just using the ISCAN to get the signal into the digital domain and letting the JVC projector scale. Trying to decide on dropping the coin on the latest generation of lumagen. Cost is not for the faint of heart.


Lumagen Radiance Pro is almost a necessity for 4K projector setups. Radiance Pro excels in HDR to SDR conversion (Dynamic Tone-Mapping) with its frame by frame and multi-zone per frame analyzing algorithm. This is the main benefit of 4xxx units. Yes it also does the best in class upscaling, aspect ratio management, color management and other enhancements but none of those warrant the very steep asking price more than the dynamic tone mapping (DTM).

If I was on limited budget, I would get the 4xxxx and look for cheaper alternatives for the SD processing. The resale for both 2144 and Duo are great. You can try and let go any one of them with minimal to no loss. Start with Duo and see how you like it.
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 Post subject: Re: Lumagen Radiance 2124 2144 owners
PostPosted: 24 Apr 2021, 22:07 
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so, does anyone know how many 2144 have been manufactured?

would love to try out one of them and compare it against

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has anyone tried the 3D comb filters on PAL material?
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so, does anyone know how many 2144 have been manufactured?


I *think* I remember something around 700 units, but I might be wrong.

EDIT: Based on substance's post, we are closer to somewhere between 400 and 500.

I bought mine in early 2017 directly from Lumagen as a "B-stock" that really looked brand new to me. But that means I was one of the refurbished 400, not an additional unit.

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so, does anyone know how many 2144 have been manufactured?

would love to try out one of them and compare it against

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Pioneer DVR-LX70D

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has anyone tried the 3D comb filters on PAL material?


From my personal experience with the 2144 in combination with a Pioneer CLD-2950 or 925; the 2144 performs superbly with PAL LDs, the difference was huge when compared to my previous DVDO VP50 which admittedly has a pretty low rent comb filter that is perhaps in reality no better than those already fitted to the above players.

The difficult part though is locating a 2144 thats up for sale?
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Jim at Lumagen doesn’t know the exact figures. At one point he said he had 40 units left and expected that stock to last 2 years. This should give you an idea for the sales numbers. We are estimating the total production to be around 400-500 units(most sold in its first couple years in production). Most of them were sold to those who wanted to hold on to their analog only source devices. Since there isn’t anything new coming out to replace the 2144, it is unlikely they will sell their Radiance 2144.

Jim is very careful about not flooding the market with a ton of units. The production numbers are carefully selected based on historic figures. I would say %75-85 of the Lumagen customers are returning customers. Lumagen offers a great trade in program when upgrading to newer models. This is to control the second hand market hence why you never see a ton of used Lumagen units for sale. Lumagen considered making a Radiance Pro with analog inputs but the interest was low. If you had bought your Radiance 2144 from Lumagen or one of the authorized retailers directly, they offered a very generous trade in credit towards upgrading to the new Radiance Pro but allowed you to keep your 2144.
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Jim at Lumagen doesn’t know the exact figures. At one point he said he had 40 units left and expected that stock to last 2 years. This should give you an idea for the sales numbers. We are estimating the total production to be around 400-500 units(most sold in its first couple years in production). Most of them were sold to those who wanted to hold on to their analog only source devices. Since there isn’t anything new coming out to replace the 2144, it is unlikely they will sell their Radiance 2144.

Jim is very careful about not flooding the market with a ton of units. The production numbers are carefully selected based on historic figures. I would say %75-85 of the Lumagen customers are returning customers. Lumagen offers a great trade in program when upgrading to newer models. This is to control the second hand market hence why you never see a ton of used Lumagen units for sale. Lumagen considered making a Radiance Pro with analog inputs but the interest was low. If you had bought your Radiance 2144 from Lumagen or one of the authorized retailers directly, they offered a very generous trade in credit towards upgrading to the new Radiance Pro but allowed you to keep your 2144.




just FYI, 5 people are in the queue for a 21x4 unit, crazy!
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