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chrisw6atv
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Post subject: Re: Looking for M Holder. Pioneer CLD-D503 Posted: 25 Feb 2024, 19:45 |
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The Pioneer part number was VNL1779. You can look up that number, or M-holder, on Ebay and you should find one or more sellers of newly-made replacements. (Do not look for or use an "old stock" one if you find one, it would not last too long in use at this point either.)
As ldfan mentioned, look for issues with either or both trays such as dirt or dried grease in the gear "tracks", and or course be very physically careful with the now-25-plus-year-old mechanisms. The M-holder is part of the laser assembly, not either of the disc trays, so its failure could be a coincidence unless you know that you damaged it by mistake or similar. Its two gears are not the same, so be careful when you do the reassembly. I wish you success, and welcome to the Laser Disc community!
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queenv
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Post subject: Re: Looking for M Holder. Pioneer CLD-D503 Posted: 26 Feb 2024, 01:19 |
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The middle gear, that contacts the track. The shaft and rod broke off as well as the stem for the second largest gear. The gears themselves are fine with no broken teeth. The plastic around the mounting screw is broken away so no way to reattach to the sled. I need the main assembly of the M Holder. The larger tray that the motor and gears mount to. Everything else can be reused. I don't have an easy way to add a pic on my computer. Sorry. But if you want to send a pic of what you have, I can point it out. If you can spare one, even better. Thank you, krbahr.
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: Looking for M Holder. Pioneer CLD-D503 Posted: 26 Feb 2024, 02:03 |
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chrisw6atv wrote: As ldfan mentioned, look for issues with either or both trays such as dirt or dried grease in the gear "tracks",… I don’t recall saying anything about this . Maybe it was part of a discussion regarding the CLD-3070 but this issue is essentially different.
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: Looking for M Holder. Pioneer CLD-D503 Posted: 26 Feb 2024, 02:10 |
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queenv wrote: Basically, everything started to fail in a position over the rear sled stop as it was maneuvering into the down position. This caused the M Holder to be in a crunch on top of the stop and what broke the mounting screw away. The stem had snapped just before this point in travel. I hope that describes it. Well…. As Kurtis said, a picture would still be more useful to see what the damage looks like. Also, what exactly was the issue with the CD tray? I did ask that earlier and you did not elaborate. I only ask because unlike a CLD-D504 and other epsilon turn models, these have dedicated eject buttons for CD and LD. The CLD-D503 and other gamma turn models only have one eject button and the single CD tray only activates when “CD Direct” is turned on. Thus, I’m thinking you did not know this and accidentally damaged your player because you didn’t think about it.
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Post subject: Re: [CLD-D503] Looking for M-Holder Posted: 26 Feb 2024, 02:58 |
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queenv wrote: I just need the correct M Holder. As pointed by Kurtis, the CLD-503 does not have a M-Holder. => https://manuals.lddb.com/LD_Players/Pioneer/CLD/CLD-D503/Assuming I'm looking at the right page (44/60), the Service Manual shows the Mechanism Assy without a M-Holder. Julien
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Post subject: Re: [CLD-D503] Looking for M-Holder Posted: 26 Feb 2024, 04:05 |
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queenv wrote: I won't put up with "man-splaining". I don't see where the aggressiveness comes from. You asked for an information, we provided it to you and you don't like the answer. The fact that you are straight, gay, lesbian, or from another planet has ZERO meaning on this forum. This is about LaserDisc and related hardware. If you do not ask precise questions, you won't get precise answers. Pictures would definitely help. This is what a M-Holder looks like, is it the piece of gear you have in hand right now? Julien
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: Looking for M Holder. Pioneer CLD-D503 Posted: 26 Feb 2024, 04:08 |
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queenv wrote: The cd tray was off track below the main tray. Not our damage. Main tray opened fine. Until the CD tray, already off track, shifted and wasn't letting any thing move. Got everything lined up and it was working great. But with all of this going on, there had already been a lot of gear grinding going on. The laser was trying to move and the tray was in the way. Anyway, if I get the M Holder, as I've been trying to track down, I can get everything going again. Should have said that in the first place. How was I to know it came off?
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