I can't win.

I got finished watching disc 1 of Pulp Fiction, went to eject, nothing. Not a peep from the motor, just a very confused player with E0 error.

I was able to work the motor by hand, so its not seized, and the mechanism went through its eject cycle by hand just fine.

Most likely your laser movement motor holder is bad. There are pins on the holder that hold the two gears between the motor and the track. The pins commonly break and you get various issues. This needs to be replaced.

Yeah, the only way to win with vintage electronics is to either have, or be ready to get a spare. Even a single side player is good for backup.

So, to be clear, it's the tray load motor that's not responding correct? Your laser assembly still moves back and forth okay, right?

The entire thing acts like its dead, except The display lights up and throws errors.

Perhaps I should explain the I can't win statement; it was said as funny irony rather than defeat.

I didn't really tear in to it last night other than to extract the disc. I'm somewhat mechanical; but transports for VCRs always got the better of me. 1940s Wurlitzer jukebox? No problem. Electro-machanical pinball, piece of cake. VCR transports? Forget it.

I'm gonna track down a service manual and tear in to it tonight (its just me this christmas, so I'm not really celebrating, just depressed) and see if its something simple. But I'm probably looking at having to get another player....which may not be a good option because anything worth buying is going for more than I can shell out...of course seperating the junk from good is another hassle.

*sigh*

The error code you got is mentioned in Pioneer literature as a "slider error" which indicates the laser assembly not moving on the track. Good luck on the trackdown. You can actually get a good single side player cheap until you get enough $$ to buy a good dual side player.

Yeah...I'm not even going to worry about it. I'm gonna sell the player as parts; sell the discs. I haven't had any time really to watch movies. It was one thing when I could somewhat watch movies...but I haven't had tine lately....and with the fact I've been working 80 hour weeks....I'm kind of at the point I should probably stop before I find myself buried under a pile of stuff and wondering why.

But, again, its Christmas, I get very depressed...so no decisions till after the new year. I'm gonna get home, drink a bottle of Bailey's and forget tomorrow is going to happen.

You can get an excellent player by working with the seller on payment plans, etc. it's allowed me to afford players that would have otherwise forever been out of my reach. If never hurts to ask a seller if he's willing to work with you, especially if you can give him a downpayent of some amount. Just don't go for any of the DVD/LaserDisc players, although you probably know that - I'm constantly saddened when I see the amount some go for and the buyer thinks they are getting the very best since its late model and very high tech due to being dual format. I can't believe that Sony players sell at all - or all but a very few Panasonic models. Only a few Philips/Magnavox players are good either. And the stuff like Radio Shack and Zenith is beyond junk - the Carver is a piece of trash that makes the Zenith look high tech.

What's wrong with a dvl700,dvl9o Elite, Dvl-909 or a Dvl-91 Elite Disclord, as I have sold many in the past with very few problems. Thanks, Duane MI

I should have been clearer - nothings wrong with them, they just seem to go for prices that are way more than what they are worth - I'm routinely shocked to see someone on eBay buy a DVL player for $500 when they could get a 95 for that. As you know, I love the DVL-700, but not at anything over about $200 or so. So I didn't mean to knock them, just the prices paid with the idea that they are the best of the best and so worth the high price. You've sold a 704, which is better than any DVL, at a great, fair, price - sadly, to someone who will never be able to appreciate it. So I was jaut trying to say that if you are going to spend 400 or more on a player, it shouldn't be a DVL model. Or a Sony, ever.

BTW, I can't get the top off to see the MSB board. It's held down internally or something weird, not at all like removing the top from the LX-900.

Yes your correct on that Disclord about the prices being way above average on the Dvls especially if it needs a belt or alignment to bring it back to Pioneer specs.

So just be careful on your Ebay purchase or get a good LD player off a member on, as most of them have had their players devices or taken good care of their players.

Thanks for clearing the DVL- Players up Disclord

Seems that's the problem. I tapped the motor and it came back to life; so it's got a dead spot in it. However, it's got issues. Mostly it can't make the turn anymore. Soon as it gets to that portion; the laser assembly kind of just free-wheels. If I work it past; it'll return to home and play just fine.

If I could figure out how to actually disassemble the thing; I can see if it's possible to repair whatever is broken down there.

I can send you a new in the box Gear Holder, its nit difficult to change, if you think you can and want too? Just let me know....

Duane, MI

No charge on the part to shipping, its on me just send me pm for your address..

Duane

do the part, it's worth the risk.
or wait for a good cheap player on the bay.
i was lucky and picked up a 503 for 55 bucks total with shipping, i don't know how much better the 505 is
you don't get trick play with the 503 on CLV discs but it works great as a backup.

I have never been able to get that $400 or $500 for any DVL player I have listed here. I can barely get $195 for the DVL-919. Even $55 for a standard dual side player is tough.

Anyway, I think the 406 player is worth the repair. What could you do that would make it any worse than not be able to play it anyway? The side change transport in the AC3 players, meaning the 406, 504, 604, etc, is the U-track style without the flip chamber, so it is simpler and more reliable in my experience. I suspect it may be the same in the 505, though not certain on that.

On the DVL players, I prefer them to even the 700 series players as I have seen them cut through laser-rot LDs and play them with good images when they are in proper shape that even a 704 could not do. When somebody buying locally comes over to see the player actually play, and they look at a 700 series and a DVL, they always pick the DVL if they can afford it. At least that has been the case so far. I even had a person pick an LX-1000u over a 700 series player, and both were in proper condition, because they thought the image was equal and they liked the heft and quietness of the LX player.

Of course there's no accounting for taste and the image and features that one person prefers may not be the what another thinks is best.

Really? Dude, that's nice of ya! Ill get my address to ya.

I think I can change it; no problem. Its not the overly complex tray (crap that's got a lot of gears). All I have to do is remove the ribbon and carefully pull the assembly out. Its able to climb up...so iot will in fact play...but the gears being broken I think has the timilng off. The track looks like it ducks a little as its rounding; so its hitting something on the way down.

Ill take a video of it tonight. But I could see when I got it up top that the drive gears were moving more than theyh should.

Dewdude, your Gear Holder was sent out today Uses Priority, should be there Friday or Sat. You will use your 2 gears from your old gear holder and install them to the new gear holder, just pay attention what gear is for to and bottom, Im sure you will not mess up, its straight foward procedure,

Check your PM Box,

Duane Cummins, MI

cool deal from the grasshopper
show us pictures on the 505 before and after so others can see how to do it for the future

Ill take plenty of pictures...ill need them so I can put the thing back together. Someone took a peek at the topless player and went "wow, that's a complex machine with virtually no electronics".