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 Post subject: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2014, 00:34 
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This is the only problem I have had with this player, it it usually happens about 3 times out of 10. Does anybody know what the cause of this is? I do not really feel like taking it apart, because it works great besides that. Thanks.

Here's a short demo of it doing that:
http://youtu.be/b9vxBF1u-OA
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2014, 22:55 
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It probably needs the rubber grip ring around the spindle cleaned or replaced.
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PostPosted: 09 Apr 2014, 23:18 
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happycube wrote:
It probably needs the rubber grip ring around the spindle cleaned or replaced.

Besides the slow spin down problem, should this be a worry, or not? Honestly, if it does not affect any other part of the functionality, I do not care much to do any work on it.

The player playing back an entire side:
http://youtu.be/wdI-bTXJbtg
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2014, 23:22 
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only worry would be the slow down will make a wear mark on the label of your discs.
so if you have a rare disc then i would look into fix or clean.


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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2014, 23:32 
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rein-o wrote:
only worry would be the slow down will make a wear mark on the label of your discs.
so if you have a rare disc then i would look into fix or clean.


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Weirdly enough, it mostly does it on my Mitsubishi discs (the disc played in the video was a Mitsubishi disc). I tried a Pioneer USA disc 5 times, and it never had slow-down problems.
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2014, 00:32 
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Here's the thing, it won't get any better by itself. It can get to the point where disc slip at start up may prevent a disc from playing.
  
 
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PostPosted: 10 Apr 2014, 00:42 
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Here's the thing, it won't get any better by itself. It can get to the point where disc slip at start up may prevent a disc from playing.

Alright. One thing is that I kept trying discs by plants other than Mitsubishi, and they all span down in expected time. When I tried The Terminator (THX version) and Urusei Yatsura - Movie 2, they sometimes took longer than usual to spin down (maybe it could be warpage?) Sorry to say, but I mainly just want to wait until it becomes a real problem because I do not have much technological experience at all (at the most, I can program a little bit of Javascript), and I do not have the money to replace the player (I am focused mostly on getting the Urusei Yatsura Limited Edition Vol. 1-10 LD Boxset).
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2014, 01:08 
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Not trying to sound like a know more than you (which I am very sorry if I am), but here is a quick video where I try spinning a Pioneer Japan disc four times:

http://youtu.be/y_A0YGwVLvw

After that, there was no label wear at all. I do have some discs with label wear, but they all came like that when I first got them (Urusei Yatsura - Movie 5 actually had label wear brand-new.)
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PostPosted: 10 Apr 2014, 02:39 
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Okay, now I swear this is the last video I will make of this player for a while. Basically, it shows the playback on three different Manufacturers with the top of the player taken off. Every disc except the Mitsubishi disc span down quite well (my only real concern is that the Kuraray disc (which was Ran) wobbled a bit during spin-up). Note that the footage (except for the spin-down footage) was sped up.

http://youtu.be/vI4Xrk1ZIno
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2014, 02:55 
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really, don't worry.
the wobble is due to the disc not being perfectly flat, the laser compensates for this.
not all discs are perfectly 100% flat, they should be but they aren't.

from what i can hear that hiss is the same sound that my player did before i replaced that rubber mat on the motor.
its on the bottom part, so now that you have the top off you will be able to see it, just get a qtip and come cleaner
wipe it down, let it dry and try again, if it kees doing this you will have to replace that rubber mat.

but it's really fine, i think you are thinking its a more serious issue than it really is right now.
when it stops playing then worry.

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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2014, 21:16 
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I think I may have actually fixed the slow-down problem! I put some rubbing alcohol on the rubber mat (sadly I slightly damaged the Urusei Yatsura - Only You (US Release) label in the process (due to me not waiting enough for it to dry, GO ME!)), and now Movie 2 in spinning down perfectly fine (for now, at least). :)
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 13 Apr 2014, 02:26 
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Sadly, the problem seems to have come back. Oh, well. I'll probably just deal with it until I can possibly get a better player (it will be a long time before this happens, though.) After all, playback is perfect, so it really isn't THAT big of a deal. Also, it seems to sometimes depend on what disc I use (for example, I tried out Rain Man: Special Edition (1988) [ML104742], and it span down a smooth as butter.)

Also, I was supposed to clean the ring around the spindle, right (that's what I did)?
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 13 Apr 2014, 03:26 
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Yup, you should probably replace it... ldservice or krbahr can probably look up the part #
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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2014, 03:46 
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Yup, you should probably replace it... ldservice or krbahr can probably look up the part #

If I find out what the part number is, and I actually get the part, how hard is it to take the old one off and put on the new one?
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 13 Apr 2014, 04:12 
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not really hard, but its very thin, so take your time.
you just pull off the old one, will peel up, i think i used the point of a razor to start it.
then you just put the new one down.
when i put it down there was a little ripple but not an issue.
ldservice had the part in stock when i needed one.


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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2014, 04:32 
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not really hard, but its very thin, so take your time.
you just pull off the old one, will peel up, i think i used the point of a razor to start it.
then you just put the new one down.
when i put it down there was a little ripple but not an issue.
ldservice had the part in stock when i needed one.


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Alright. It is fine to use the player, for now (until I replace the rubber ring)?
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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2014, 04:34 
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sure, but you will end up getting label wear over a long time.
player will be fine, and i think how you posted you may have done more damage to that label than the wear from the rubber not gripping as well now.

but overall don't worry too much, just play the discs and enjoy.


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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2014, 04:45 
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rein-o wrote:
sure, but you will end up getting label wear over a long time.
player will be fine, and i think how you posted you may have done more damage to that label than the wear from the rubber not gripping as well now.

but overall don't worry too much, just play the discs and enjoy.


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Alright. For now, I'm focused on getting Urusei Yatsura TV 1-10: Limited Edition (1981) [UYLD1-10] (which a VERY kind friend of mine has agreed to sell me for 50 dollars). Also, just so you know, it actually doesn't happen THAT often (it does it mostly on my Mitsubishi discs, like I said before), but when it does, it's somewhat annoying. When I get more money after that, I will probably look into getting the replacement ring.
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 13 Apr 2014, 06:08 
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One more thing, for now:

I actually just tried another Mitsubishi disc that's not Urusei Yatsura - Beautiful Dreamer or The Terminator (Commando (1985) [0148485]) 10 times, and it span down fine each time. Are you sure that this isn't just because those two discs are a bit warped and the player is having a harder time stopping the disc because of it?
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-V2600 Takes a bit longer to spin down discs
PostPosted: 15 Apr 2014, 17:39 
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One more thing, for now:

I actually just tried another Mitsubishi disc that's not Urusei Yatsura - Beautiful Dreamer or The Terminator (Commando (1985) [0148485]) 10 times, and it span down fine each time. Are you sure that this isn't just because those two discs are a bit warped and the player is having a harder time stopping the disc because of it?


Man, you are thorough with your stuff. Who knows if it's because of a warped disc, I'd just replace the ring, it'll take 20 minutes at most and it's extremely easy to fix. The worries disappear, because if you don't replace the ring, I think it's going to bother you to no end if you notice a disc not slowing down correctly. I probably wouldn't even notice it unless it was real heinous.
  
 
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