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 Post subject: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 27 Feb 2018, 10:00 
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Does anyone have any sort of information about this player? On the surface it looks like white version of the V2800, but it has even fewer front panel controls. I'm guessing it's a Japanese only release as it uses a 9-pin DIN for a serial connector, but apart from that I can't wean any sort of information about the machine online.

Some kind of a late LD-ROM machine, perhaps?
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 27 Feb 2018, 16:52 
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possibly but I wonder if it has any relation to the Pioneer Mac Clone. It is strange that it does not have LaserBarcode on it which some industrial players do.
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 27 Feb 2018, 21:59 
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I wish I had one, I’ve heard they break a lot easier than the 80s industrial models, other than that, I know nothing.

I see it says “compatible Laserdisc player” on it, which, yeah, along with the name does make it seem like it was designed to go with a computer. The DIN for coms making it distinct from LDVs which always had RS232 over DB9.

This guy’s blog:

http://garitune.hatenablog.jp/entry/2008/10/13/225537

Says his is for Macs. That DIN does look quite like the ones used for Apple Desktop Bus or printer ports on old Macs but it’s been a long time so I can’t recognize it on site.
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 28 Feb 2018, 01:12 
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I might have to get this if I ever get the Pioneer mac clone
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 28 Feb 2018, 06:46 
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"Compatible Laserdisc" was written on most Japanese CLD models. Since there's still baud rate settings on back, it's a Mac Serial port (DIN-8) not ADB.
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 28 Feb 2018, 15:57 
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Wonder if you can use a north american mac with it. That would be cool but I don't have an older mac with the serial port anymore. It would be nice for the future though.
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 06 Nov 2019, 07:39 
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takeshi666 wrote:
Does anyone have any sort of information about this player?


Pioneer (translated) says:

https://jpn.pioneer/ja/comp/product/bundle3.html

LD Vision

Just like a laser disc.
Computer control connected to serial port and AV input CLD player, CLD-PC10 can be freely controlled. LD images can be displayed on a PC monitor and QuickTime movies and still images can be imported. It can be said that the beginning of a new dimension of LD. In addition, high-quality LD can be used widely as a high-end material for self-made QuickTime movies, desktop patterns, and custom icon creation. Of course, it is also possible to display and import from AV equipment such as VTRs and video movies.


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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 06 Nov 2019, 08:26 
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I do like the look of that !
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 06 Nov 2019, 21:58 
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I'm imagining this originally came with it's own software, and I can't even imagine how hard that that would be to find. Japanese PC software of old seems to have a a reputation of being incredibly elusive, and proprietary software of any kind, in any region, tends to end up like that as well, unless the hardware it's intended for is popular enough to encourage archival projects by fans.
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takeshi666 wrote:
I'm imagining this originally came with it's own software, and I can't even imagine how hard that that would be to find.


Just a tiny screenshot.... (c) 1990 !

https://jpn.pioneer/ja/comp/product/bundle3.html

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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 06 Oct 2020, 21:33 
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Laserdisc at will.


i love google translate. i assume its like the cd software.
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 07 Oct 2020, 14:43 
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takeshi666 wrote:
I'm imagining this originally came with it's own software, and I can't even imagine how hard that that would be to find.


Just a tiny screenshot.... (c) 1990 !

https://jpn.pioneer/ja/comp/product/bundle3.html

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:o

Well, it's better than nothing! :mrgreen:
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 07 Oct 2020, 15:04 
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takeshi666 wrote:
I'm imagining this originally came with it's own software, and I can't even imagine how hard that that would be to find. Japanese PC software of old seems to have a a reputation of being incredibly elusive, and proprietary software of any kind, in any region, tends to end up like that as well, unless the hardware it's intended for is popular enough to encourage archival projects by fans.


Don't underestimate Google magic powers :-)

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The latest version 1.03 of LDVision, the control & QuickTime Movie capture application software for CLD-PC10, will be distributed free of charge on the FTP server. Solved the problem that the screen could not be displayed when the device driver for video capture function software such as Q-Cam was installed.

https://jpn.pioneer/ja/comp/soft_lib/indexj.html

LDVision1.03 (575K)

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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 07 Oct 2020, 15:36 
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QuickTime capture...didn’t make any sense to me in Japanese either.

Is this used for making little 80x80 QT videos of LDs?
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 07 Oct 2020, 18:32 
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takeshi666 wrote:
I'm imagining this originally came with it's own software, and I can't even imagine how hard that that would be to find. Japanese PC software of old seems to have a a reputation of being incredibly elusive, and proprietary software of any kind, in any region, tends to end up like that as well, unless the hardware it's intended for is popular enough to encourage archival projects by fans.


Don't underestimate Google magic powers :-)

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The latest version 1.03 of LDVision, the control & QuickTime Movie capture application software for CLD-PC10, will be distributed free of charge on the FTP server. Solved the problem that the screen could not be displayed when the device driver for video capture function software such as Q-Cam was installed.

https://jpn.pioneer/ja/comp/soft_lib/indexj.html

LDVision1.03 (575K)

Julien

Color me impressed.

Too bad I've got neither a Mac or a CLD-PC10. :mrgreen:
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 07 Oct 2020, 20:33 
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You can make 80x80 videos of LDs with all sorts of crap now...although I wouldn’t be surprised if resolutions that low are no longer supported by modern QuickTime.
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 22 Nov 2022, 10:19 
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I have found one, and it works with my Pioneer Mac (and many other Mac) : https://www.journaldulapin.com/2022/11/ ... -cld-pc10/

Pioneer offer the sftware on his website (yes, 25 years later) and it's a virtual remote.
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-PC10
PostPosted: 23 Nov 2022, 02:53 
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Oh hey it references this thread too! :mrgreen:
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