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[CLD-950] Player does not read disc on first insert
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Author:  takeshi666 [ 21 Nov 2018, 09:20 ]
Post subject:  [CLD-950] Player does not read disc on first insert
My CLD-950 has developed a weird problem where it doesn't read the disc on first insert after powering up, instead making a winding down buzzing noise for a few seconds before spitting the disc out. It'll read the disc fine if I just close the tray again however, and on subsequent replacements. It also reads the disc fine if I power up the player with a disc already inside.

Any ideas what might be causing this?

EDIT: Of course as I try to determine exactly which circumstances it does and doesn't do it, it suddenly stops doing it.
Author:  sethp3d [ 21 Nov 2018, 11:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
takeshi666 wrote:
My CLD-950 has developed a weird problem where it doesn't read the disc on first insert after powering up, instead making a winding down buzzing noise for a few seconds before spitting the disc out. It'll read the disc fine if I just close the tray again however, and on subsequent replacements. It also reads the disc fine if I power up the player with a disc already inside.

Any ideas what might be causing this?

EDIT: Of course as I try to determine exactly which circumstances it does and doesn't do it, it suddenly stops doing it.


Mine does a similar thing, I'm guessing its the tray loading belt that needs to be changed.
Author:  rein-o [ 21 Nov 2018, 16:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
There is an issue but I can't remember.
I believe there is a switch that is bad?? Grasshopper told me but I can't remember as a 503 I own does the same.
Author:  ldfan [ 21 Nov 2018, 18:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
Loading belt
Author:  rein-o [ 21 Nov 2018, 20:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
ldfan wrote:
Loading belt

Thank you, that too.
Mine goes in then I hear it reading then kicks it out, I close again and it plays fine.
So my issue could be belt and or slipping pad as I hear it sort of slip.
Author:  sethp3d [ 22 Nov 2018, 11:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
I've been trying to find out the part number of the loading belt for the 950 is it a generic part for all CLD-players?
Author:  ldfan [ 22 Nov 2018, 21:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
The 950 should be the same as any of the “S” series models in the US.

eBay appears to have one available....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-CD-Pla ... Swal5YH-x-
Author:  blam1 [ 23 Nov 2018, 04:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
This is the same belt that Pioneer used on most of their later CLD series players and all of their DVL and DVK players. VEB1184 is the pioneer part.

If the belt on ebay is truly a 4.0, it's going to be too large. I use 3.5 belts, although I've seen some use a 3.6 belt. I would be worried a 4.0 belt is going to slip.
Author:  ldfan [ 23 Nov 2018, 06:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
After doing some research, it appears you are correct that the belt is the VEB-1184 for the CLD-950. I thought it could have been different since this model is a single side player.

Appears one can get one at this place....

http://www.pacparts.com/model.cfm?mfg=P ... uto&back=0
Author:  sethp3d [ 23 Nov 2018, 09:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
ldfan wrote:
After doing some research, it appears you are correct that the belt is the VEB-1184 for the CLD-950. I thought it could have been different since this model is a single side player.

Appears one can get one at this place....

http://www.pacparts.com/model.cfm?mfg=P ... uto&back=0



Thanks! I have a spare one from my 925 that I can try out on my 950 :)
Author:  takeshi666 [ 20 Dec 2018, 20:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
Sure took me long enough, but I finally got a replacement belt coming. The CLD-950 isn't the only thing that's falling apart in my home.

I should probably ask if anybody knows where the belt is actually supposed to go next. :oops:
Author:  ldfan [ 21 Dec 2018, 03:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
takeshi666 wrote:
I should probably ask if anybody knows where the belt is actually supposed to go next. :oops:


In most cases, the belt is located close to the front of the player on the left side (looking from the front of the unit). To reach it you will just need to take to cover off and retract the tray. I would recommend cleaning the plastic pulleys with alcohol just before installing the new belt to remove any possible oils.
Author:  jseach [ 21 Dec 2018, 15:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
I just replaced the loading belt on my D704 with a 3.6 square one. Much thanks to Peter B. for pointing me in the right direction. Works perfectly. In my case, the loading belt is on the right hand-side when looking at the front and the tray needs to be ejected to see it. Easy to replace.
Author:  laserpaal [ 02 Jan 2019, 20:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
blam1 wrote:
This is the same belt that Pioneer used on most of their later CLD series players and all of their DVL and DVK players. VEB1184 is the pioneer part.

If the belt on ebay is truly a 4.0, it's going to be too large. I use 3.5 belts, although I've seen some use a 3.6 belt. I would be worried a 4.0 belt is going to slip.


Kurtis Bahr mentions 3.6 belt as the replacement belt.
Author:  takeshi666 [ 04 Jan 2019, 00:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Player does not read disc on first insert
Well I got home from the holidays, the replacement belt had arrived, I couldn't wait so I replaced it immediately. Had a bit of a panic since replacing the belt had no immediate effect but after putting the cover back and the player back to it's slot in the shelf, I haven't encountered any issues as of yet.

I think my player is just incredibly sensitive to being moved because the tray tends to jam but only after I've moved the player as well.
Author:  takeshi666 [ 25 Aug 2019, 07:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: [CLD-950] Player does not read disc on first insert
Well it seems that this issue has reared it's head again and considering I just replaced the belt earlier in the year...well, it's possible the belt I got wasn't all that good either, but that's kind of unlikely isn't it?
Author:  takeshi666 [ 07 Nov 2019, 19:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: [CLD-950] Player does not read disc on first insert
Last night I had a slightly different thing happen; I inserted the disc and it seemed to load up, but as soon as I pressed play, the problem manifested again. Buzzing noise, then eject.

Think I should replace the other belt as well? And if so, is it the same type or a different belt?
Author:  takeshi666 [ 10 Oct 2020, 21:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: [CLD-950] Player does not read disc on first insert
Bumping because I finally got around to actually removing the second belt and comparing, the one below the laser assembly is noticeably looser. I'm guessing this is not supposed to be the case?

Of course after fiddling with it it seemed to work again, but as soon as I plonked the cover back on and shoved the thing back into the cabinet and reconnected all the cables, the problem re-emerged. :?
Author:  cplusplus [ 10 Oct 2020, 22:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: [CLD-950] Player does not read disc on first insert
The belt that actually moves the pickup is probably VEB1077 which the PRB cross reference PDF here says SCX4.6. I'd get one a little smaller though because I think the sizes in that document are a little too big. A few online places sell belts labeled as VEB1077 as well. You can remove and wash the belt with water and clean the pulleys with alcohol and a cotton swab to see if it will grant you temporary reprieve while waiting for the new belt to arrive.
Author:  takeshi666 [ 10 Oct 2020, 23:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: [CLD-950] Player does not read disc on first insert
Sooo...SCX4.5 or 4.4 or something? I don't understand this numbering system at all :?
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