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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-D925] E0 Error
PostPosted: 13 May 2020, 11:45 
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The 925 has a 3-line 2D adaptive comb filter. Not the worst but certainly not the best. Despite the fact that Composite is Y/C combined, you would be better off using Composite with an external 3d comb filter.
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-D925] E0 Error
PostPosted: 13 May 2020, 11:59 
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Ah so I'm doing it right then? My chain:

925 > COMPOSITE OUT > Micomsoft Framemeister > HDMI OUT > AVR > TELLY

or if AC-3

925 > COMPOSITE OUT > Micomsoft Framemeister > HDMI OUT > AVR > TELLY
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925 > AC-3 COAX OUT > Yamaha APD-2 > AC-3 COAX OUT > AVR


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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-D925] E0 Error
PostPosted: 13 May 2020, 12:00 
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I've had 2 925s sold my backup player a couple of years ago (perhaps a dumb thing to do really) I used to use the s-video out with my previous DVDO VP50 processor as there is no serious comb filtering on that device so the image quality was definitely superior at least to my eyes letting the 925s onboard filter do the job. When switching to the Lumagen Radiance 2144 with its far more advanced 3D comb filter it's a no brainer to output via the 925s composite, the difference is just night and day. I've a spare decent quality Ixos S-Video cable here you can have if you want to try it for yourself Ted?
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-D925] E0 Error
PostPosted: 13 May 2020, 12:09 
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teddanson wrote:
Ah so I'm doing it right then? My chain:

925 > COMPOSITE OUT > Micomsoft Framemeister > HDMI OUT > AVR > TELLY

or if AC-3

925 > COMPOSITE OUT > Micomsoft Framemeister > HDMI OUT > AVR > TELLY
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925 > AC-3 COAX OUT > Yamaha APD-2 > AC-3 COAX OUT > AVR


The only way to truly know would be to test different cables and different configurations. But in theory you're better off with the composite into a 3d comb filter. Most modern TVs have 3d comb filters so would be better than whats built into the 925. The only time I would use the S-video is if im using an old crt that only has notch filters. Or if im lazy and I cant be bothered to find a composite cable. :P
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-D925] E0 Error
PostPosted: 13 May 2020, 14:58 
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takeshi666 wrote:
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It allows you to control the player from a separate Pioneer component.

Specifically, I think it just transmits the IR signals through the cable so you could for example have all your components hidden inside a cabinet except for one and all the IR signals would be received by that one and sent to the others.

I don't think they even need to be Pioneer models?


I'm not sure, but I believe that might be the case.
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-D925] E0 Error
PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 16:11 
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Welcome home. :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-D925] E0 Error
PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 16:53 
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The CLD-D925 is now back in my AV unit and all set up again. I even 'treated her' to a shiny new set of 'gold plated' composite cables as a welcome home present. :lol:

Connected everything up, powered up the old girl and she is back in 100% tip top shape. Span a quick NTSC disc (The Late Shift) and all appears to be well. She arrived double boxed (my original retail box inside a whopper outside box and extra packing materials) which was a good thing as the courier dropped it at my door on it's side! :evil:

You can certainly notice the difference a new belt makes. I think mine wasn't on the way out too much, but heck, get it changed while getting everything else done. The trays certainly seem to open and close marginally quicker and smoother than before. Maybe it's the whole system re-grease, clean, motor holder upgrade and the new spindle motor, but the system seems a little quieter too?

Anyway, hopefully everything will stay in top shape. The old girl looks like she just rolled off the Pioneer assembly line back in September 1997 (the date printed on my owner's manual).

Happy days are here again. :D

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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-D925] E0 Error
PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 17:23 
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teddanson wrote:
The CLD-D925 is now back in my AV unit and all set up again. I even 'treated her' to a shiny new set of 'gold plated' composite cables as a welcome home present. :lol:

Connected everything up, powered up the old girl and she is back in 100% tip top shape. Span a quick NTSC disc (The Late Shift) and all appears to be well. She arrived double boxed (my original retail box inside a whopper outside box and extra packing materials) which was a good thing as the courier dropped it at my door on it's side! :evil:

You can certainly notice the difference a new belt makes. I think mine wasn't on the way out too much, but heck, get it changed while getting everything else done. The trays certainly seem to open and close marginally quicker and smoother than before. Maybe it's the whole system re-grease, clean, motor holder upgrade and the new spindle motor, but the system seems a little quieter too?

Anyway, hopefully everything will stay in top shape. The old girl looks like she just rolled off the Pioneer assembly line back in September 1997 (the date printed on my owner's manual).

Happy days are here again. :D

<CASE>Mark this case as solved!</CASE>


That is good news, enjoy spinning your big silver discs again.

I had my fingers crossed for you at this end so can uncross them now then!

Cheers :thumbup: .
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-D925] E0 Error
PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 17:31 
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Thanks very much!

It wasn't cheap at all to go through all this. However it still worked out FAR cheaper than trying to source another 925 in unknown condition.

A bit gutted about the warped disc. I only bought it recently. I'm not going to bother sending it back as it cost nearly nothing (aside from destroying my LD player!.

It was a film I wanted to see and have no idea if it exists in better quality. Can't find another LD of it either.

3 Men and a Cradle (1985) [VL5192]

See above if anyone knows?
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-D925] E0 Error
PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 18:27 
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teddanson wrote:
It wasn't cheap at all to go through all this. However it still worked out FAR cheaper than trying to source another 925 in unknown condition.

Honestly, you are quite lucky to have found someone willing and able to repair and service it for you.

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It was a film I wanted to see and have no idea if it exists in better quality. Can't find another LD of it either.
3 Men and a Cradle (1985) [VL5192]
See above if anyone knows?

Drei Männer und ein Baby (Trois hommes et un couffin) (1985) [081 808-1]
3 hommes et un couffin (3 Men and a Cradle) (1985) [SF050-1434]

Might need to brush up on either your French, German or Japanese :D
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PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 19:36 
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Thanks very much!

It wasn't cheap at all to go through all this. However it still worked out FAR cheaper than trying to source another 925 in unknown condition.

A bit gutted about the warped disc. I only bought it recently. I'm not going to bother sending it back as it cost nearly nothing (aside from destroying my LD player!.

It was a film I wanted to see and have no idea if it exists in better quality. Can't find another LD of it either.

3 Men and a Cradle (1985) [VL5192]

See above if anyone knows?


There are four copies of that title on sale here in the LDDB shops, US release with English subtitles.

They are not overpriced but the postage from the USA might be a little ripe!

Again enjoy your "new" player :thumbup: .
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PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 19:39 
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Exactly. $5 LD suddenly becomes a $67352562752544278484983625527585999999936352748383876 LD after adding on shipping.
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PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 19:41 
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teddanson wrote:
It wasn't cheap at all to go through all this. However it still worked out FAR cheaper than trying to source another 925 in unknown condition.

Honestly, you are quite lucky to have found someone willing and able to repair and service it for you.

teddanson wrote:
It was a film I wanted to see and have no idea if it exists in better quality. Can't find another LD of it either.
3 Men and a Cradle (1985) [VL5192]
See above if anyone knows?

Drei Männer und ein Baby (Trois hommes et un couffin) (1985) [081 808-1]
3 hommes et un couffin (3 Men and a Cradle) (1985) [SF050-1434]

Might need to brush up on either your French, German or Japanese :D



Thanks to a fellow forum member here that put me in touch with someone in the UK. BIG thanks to them.
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