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 Post subject: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 04 Mar 2021, 01:51 
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Received a CLD-A100 with a PAC-S10 in it and was told it would not eject.

Half of "4 Rack VNL1495" had cracked off (black plastic rail used to move the pickup). I glued this back on and it should not be problematic.

When powering the unit on, both the CD and LD lights stay lit and the tray comes out very slowly. I pulled the power supply and found IC202 ICP-N25 was bad (labeled IC but it actually functions more like a fuse).

The PAC-S10 in it has leaky capacitors. Almost all of them are surface mount and there are a ton. Could this PAC have caused ICP-202 to fail? If I'm reading the schematics correctly, it protects the +5V to the INTF board where the PACs plug into.

New ICP-N25 is on the way, so hopefully powering the unit with the PAC removed will bring it back to life.
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 04 Mar 2021, 16:24 
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Never had one of these but I've read a lot about the caps in the player that need to be replaced.

Sorry can't help more.
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 04 Mar 2021, 17:08 
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You'll most likely be needing a full compliment of these:

https://console5.com/store/console-cap-kits/nec/pac-n1-pac-n10.html

Best of luck with it, I hope you get it all fixed up. :thumbup:
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 05 Mar 2021, 00:54 
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Yep I ordered the ICP replacements from there. Capacitors for the power supply are almost all 105C good quality caps, but they are packed in there a little tighter than normal so I ordered the power supply cap kit as well since I'll already be replacing the bad ICP.

They sell surface mount and through hole kits for the PAC-S10. I ordered the through hole. I've seen photos of the PAC recapped with the leads just trimmed down. Hopefully this makes it easier. Finally, I ordered a replacement battery and battery holder for the PAC.

I hope the capacitors are good quality. Kits save a lot of time. They shipped all of this same day, so that is a plus.
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 05 Mar 2021, 11:51 
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Loving your work. Best of luck with it. Did you grab a few belts too? May as well replace those while you have stuff open.
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 06 Mar 2021, 18:08 
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Thanks. Just documenting my personal journey as I seek to become krbahr :lol:

I have plenty of loading belts but I ordered a replacement for the one that moves the pickup as well.

Looking at the back of the board, I can see where someone has done repairs before so I'm hoping maybe it was fixed and then someone just plugged the PAC back in and blew the ICP again. I need to give the INTF board a look over too. A note for anyone who experiences this issue: somehow when an ICP blows, it can cause over voltage to the pickup. I noticed the focus servo was fully extended and there was even a bit of bad electrical smell so I'm hoping the pickup didn't fry. I think I have a spare here though. I think my parts will be in Monday so I'm excited to dive in and really hoping to fully restore this unit.

The power supply layout on this board is unconventional in that the primary and secondary is flipped around. There is a large copper heatsink on what usually is the secondary side with "Danger" written next to it.


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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 09 Mar 2021, 19:46 
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IC202 replaced and it is alive!

On to:
Recapping power supply
Recapping INTF board (This is a maybe. I went ahead and ordered a full set of replacement caps based on values I found posted. No idea if they will fit but I stuck to small ones.)
Recapping PAC-S10 and replacing battery
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 09 Mar 2021, 21:01 
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Good stuff well done!

Now go grab a copy of Time Gal to play on it. :thumbup:
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 10 Mar 2021, 01:17 
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Thanks! I suppose I do need an actual LaserActive release now.

It is funny to think that if I can get everything restored this weird plastic-y unit will be worth more than my LD-S2. Kinda like comparing a Red Bull stunt plane to a 747.

Has original box with manual, remote, and CPD-S1 controller for the Sega PAC.

I like to speculate on the past of these devices. If I had to guess, this was some sort of NOS situation. Someone plugged in a bad Sega PAC, fried it, sent it for repair and then plugged it back in again frying it once more.
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 10 Mar 2021, 01:28 
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cplusplus wrote:
Thanks! I suppose I do need an actual LaserActive release now.


If you're going to go and get Time Gal, visit the bank first and take out a very large loan. Alternatively win the lottery. :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 11 Mar 2021, 04:44 
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Even the "commons" are expensive by my book.

I'm really not looking forward to recapping this PAC-S10. Board is really juicy though so I better not let it sit around. I swabbed most of it off. I hate surface mount stuff! Especially the size of this kit!


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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 14 Mar 2021, 01:40 
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Began with smaller board inside the PAC-S10: DWG1365-A

Awful smell. Due to the corrosion, I was finding several caps would not remove. I ended up clipping them as close to the board as possible with some small wire cutters. Came back and cleaned thoroughly with isopropyl alcohol, heated up the pads and cleaned again. Continuity will need to be checked before and after the new caps are soldered. A few pads are damaged so I'm planning on using the extra length of the new cap leads as jumpers.

The hours I am putting into this has me a little anxious over if this will be successful or not. Mainly over fear of permanently damaging the PAC.


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 Post subject: Re: [CLD-A100] LaserActive Repair
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2021, 12:58 
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So how did the pack repair go? I hope you got it working!

Also, I have a LaserActive too and notice that the Laser stopped focusing (ie moving up and down). Do you know what the cause may be? It was working perfectly the day before (played Bladerunner)

When I opened the LaserActive to observe the operation, I noticed the laser wasn't attempting to focus like it usually does. It would slide on the rails like normal, just no attempt to focus.

Any insight would be helpful. Cheers!
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