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All US DVL 909 and 919 models will use the standard Pioneer DVD remote control for all functions, except there's no A to B side turn button it the DVD remote.

Perhaps an EU Pioneer DVD remote would do the job. In the US, those remotes are inexpensive. I recently got a few for $5 each.

Cheers for the info.

The EU version of the remote is quite different from the US version:

EU:

US:

I think they have all the same buttons, I'm just not sure if they will be programmed the same in the EU and US.

I found several remotes on ebay that resemble both of these two, but for DVD only. I assumed, as you said, that the only feature I would be missing is the a-b button.

Does anyone have any experience using the DVD only versions with the 909/919 players, or even experience using a US remote with an EU machine?

Thanks.

I have the DVL-919E player which is a Dual
Format Combi player, DVD/LD with PAL/NTSC playback. It will play any
disc I put into it. PAL-Analog, PAL Digital, NTSC Analog, NTSC
Digital, LaserDisc or DVD.

Author:	rixrex [ 06 Dec 2011, 08:01 ]
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All US DVL 909 and 919 models will use the standard Pioneer DVD remote control for all functions, except there's no A to B side turn button it the DVD remote. Perhaps an EU Pioneer DVD remote would do the job. In the US, those remotes are inexpensive. I recently got a few for $5 each.

Author:	hippiedalek [ 06 Dec 2011, 10:24 ]
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rixrex wrote: All US DVL 909 and 919 models will use the standard Pioneer DVD remote control for all functions, except there's no A to B side turn button it the DVD remote. Perhaps an EU Pioneer DVD remote would do the job. In the US, those remotes are inexpensive. I recently got a few for $5 each. Cheers for the info. The EU version of the remote is quite different from the US version: EU: US: I think they have all the same buttons, I'm just not sure if they will be programmed the same in the EU and US. I found several remotes on ebay that resemble both of these two, but for DVD only. I assumed, as you said, that the only feature I would be missing is the a-b button. Does anyone have any experience using the DVD only versions with the 909/919 players, or even experience using a US remote with an EU machine? Thanks.

Author:	benmbe [ 06 Dec 2011, 10:37 ]
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I have the EU versions that came with the DVL-909 and 919E, and to be honest I prefer the EU/UK version as it's more rugged in construction. They are very well designed as well I suppose you either love them or hate them. The US version looks cheep and nasty to me ''Just a personal view''

Author:	hippiedalek [ 06 Dec 2011, 10:39 ]
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I like the unsual design of the EU version but I get the impression that the US one would fit better in the hand and be a bit less hassle. The US ones also appear to be easier to find. I've just spotted one on ebay, if anyone can confirm it would work on the EU player then I'll snap it up.

Author:	rixrex [ 06 Dec 2011, 17:44 ]
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Can't say for sure that the US remote is the same in function for the UK player, but I know for a fact that the US 909/919 remote is a match to the standard US Pioneer DVD remote buttonwise, except for the side turn button not being there. Both remotes do look very different, meaning the 909/919 vs the DVD remote, that's true, but that's the biggest difference between them. Everything operational on the DVD remote is a match to operate the 909/919. In fact, I prefer to use the DVD remote because of size and ease of handling. The one that is different is the DVL 700 remote. It is not a match to the 909/919 except that it looks the same. It will perform the functions, but the button nomenclature is not the same. You have to hunt around to see what button does what. So you don't want to goof up and get one of those. Are there no Pioneer DVD players and remotes in the UK?

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Author:	elahrairrah [ 06 Dec 2011, 17:56 ]
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hippiedalek wrote: Cheers for the info. The EU version of the remote is quite different from the US version: EU: US: I think they have all the same buttons, I'm just not sure if they will be programmed the same in the EU and US. I found several remotes on ebay that resemble both of these two, but for DVD only. I assumed, as you said, that the only feature I would be missing is the a-b button. Does anyone have any experience using the DVD only versions with the 909/919 players, or even experience using a US remote with an EU machine? Thanks. The Euro 919 remote looks a lot like the DVL-700 remote: Maybe you should try to find one fo those? Plus, I don't think they would have changed the IR signals between US and Euro machines as Japanese remotes will work on US machines and vice versa.

Author:	dwalterm [ 06 Dec 2011, 20:43 ]
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Another possibility for remotes...... I haven't used a Pioneer remote since 99. I used a Marantz "Remote of the Gods" from 99 to 2010. Then I got a Nevo C2. They are universal remotes that you can configure as you like. nevo went under last year same time as Phillips Pronto. Nevo's can still be found on ebay. Or look for the rebadged Acoustic Research "XSight Color". I run my Pioneer TV, Pioneer laserdisc, Marantz Receiver, HDMI switch, digital audio switch, DVD, HD-DVD, Popcorn Hour streamer and Sony SuperBeta all off the same remote. It is really nice to choose "watch laserdisc" and have the receiver switch to the right input, switch to the right digital audio input, turn on the laserdisc, etc. It does take some time to learn it and get everything set right but for me the time spent was well worth it.

Author:	krbahr [ 06 Dec 2011, 23:34 ]
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I agree the DVL-919E remote looks like the DVL-700 remote. Now the US DVL-909/919 remote DOES have a side A/B button. There is a DVD only remote that looks like the DVL remotes that is missing the side A/B button, it also does not have the laserdisc symbol on the bottom left. You need to make sure you get the correct remote as the operation was changed between the DVL-700 and DVL-909, trying to remember what it was but cannot right now.

Author:	hippiedalek [ 07 Dec 2011, 00:00 ]
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Cheers for the advice dwalterm and krbahr. I think I'm just going to get the US version of the remote for now as there is currently one available and it has all the right buttons. I'll keep an eye out for the EU one and if I spot it I'll pick it up and sell off the US one. I will be posting another update about a troublesome to remove screw in a few mins...

Author:	rixrex [ 07 Dec 2011, 00:14 ]
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The DVL 700 and 909/919 remotes do look alike, but they have a significant difference in button functions, in particular the buttons in a circle surrounding the center button that looks like a menu scroll type of button grouping, and the fwd & rvs scan buttons, & chapter jump buttons. I know this for a fact as I just went through both DVL 700 and DVL 909/919 players and their remotes for a person who came to purchase one. The standard US Pioneer DVD remote works both 909 and 919 models here in the US. There is a standard Pioneer DVD remote that does look like the 909/919 remote in style, and will work as well. I'd say get the DVD remote, see if it works fine, and if so, you're okay. If not, you'll know the UK 919E is different in remote setup, and you sell the DVD remote, that's all.

Author:	hippiedalek [ 07 Dec 2011, 00:44 ]
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Ok...so I have a new problem. I had a crack at removing the broken part today but found I couldn't. As you can see in this picture... ...the part is held in place by three screws. Two of these are very easy to remove, the third (circled) however seems to be impossible. It is positioned almost within the mouth of the LD tray which means that I can't get a screwdriver at the right angle to take it out. I've tried all sorts of ideas to try and unscrew it including holding a screwdriver tip in a maul grip, but no luck. What I need is something the approximate size and shape of an allen key that has a philips screwdriver at the end. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get this screw out. I'm worried that if I can't managed it I'll have to dismantle most of the player to get at it. As a side note whilst I was trying to get this part out I must have knocked the gear underneath...and all hell broke loose. I managed to get it sorted after quite some time but suffice to say that if you're ever mucking about with this part make sure to have the gear in the exact position pictured before putting the tray back in.

Author:	rixrex [ 07 Dec 2011, 02:57 ]
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There are L-angle small screwdrivers made. You may have to go to a specialty tools store to get one.

Author:	krbahr [ 07 Dec 2011, 04:59 ]
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I always had better luck with the front removed. Take out the tray and then the remove the screws holding the top and lean it forward.

Author:	rixrex [ 07 Dec 2011, 05:45 ]
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Yeah, that's a better idea, especially when you have to put the screw back in.

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Author:	hippiedalek [ 08 Dec 2011, 13:36 ]
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I've not been able to remove the front panel. I've removed all the screws from around it but it still doesn't seem to budge. It's got tabs that look like they need to be pressed to remove the front but no luck with this either. Any advice?

Author:	hippiedalek [ 08 Dec 2011, 21:10 ]
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I've been trying some of my discs on this machine today and I've got to say I'm pretty impressed. It can play my copies of Jaws Discovision and Close Encounters Criterion, both of which were unplayable at points on my old player due to laser rot. Does the DVL 909E have a different/better laser than the CLD V2120D? I also gave my copy of Flight of Dragons, The (1982) [791 536-1] a spin, the laser rot on that is so bad that on the CLD it was luck of the draw whether it would actually play or not but on the DVL it plays every time though...however I don't get any audio, just buzzing. The disc is analogue PAL, I know some later players don't support analogue sound on PAL discs, is the 909E one of them? I checked around the web and can't find an answer. When I get my remote I'll try changing audio channels but I doubt it will make a difference. Other PAL discs work fine. If, as I suspect, this player doesn't do PAL analogue audio then it's not too much of a worry as I only have one disc of that type and the film has (finally) been released on DVD.

Author:	hippiedalek [ 09 Dec 2011, 21:30 ]
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Managed to remove the front panel enough to get access to the screw. I found that by lifting the top of the front panel it would come forward, still attatched at the bottom but still giving me enough room to get at the tricky screw. So when i get hold of the part I'll be able to easily replace it. Had a look at the shipping lever, not so sure how I'll replace that, I can't quite see how it is attached but I'm sure with some more investigation I'll work it out, any hints would be appreciated of course : )

Author:	krbahr [ 09 Dec 2011, 23:49 ]
Post subject:	Re: DVL 919E Tray Problems
For the level, unhook the spring, tilt it out and then it slides sideways.

Author:	hippiedalek [ 16 Dec 2011, 14:56 ]
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Haven't updated here for a while as I've been waiting for the parts to arrive from the US so there's been nothing to report. I was having a look around for info about analogue PAL laserdiscs on the DVL-919E and found this thread here: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/38508-27-laserdisc-standard-changes. In the last post of the thread the poster states: Quote: I have the DVL-919E player which is a Dual Format Combi player, DVD/LD with PAL/NTSC playback. It will play any disc I put into it. PAL-Analog, PAL Digital, NTSC Analog, NTSC Digital, LaserDisc or DVD. So the DVL-919E must be able to play PAL analogue audio. I'm still waiting on the remote for the machine to arrive (it's coming from the US too) so there may be something I need to configure in the menus or simply press the audio button on the remote. Can anyone with this, or a similar player confirm that it can play PAL analogue audio and what, if anything you have to configure/switch to get it working. Thanks again : ) EDIT: Just noticed that the post is signed by Blaine from www.blamld.com so I assume that the info is correct. Hopefully I'm just having a config issue or I need to switch the audio on the remote, if not then it sounds like a problem with the circuit/wiring.

Author:	hippiedalek [ 19 Dec 2011, 14:47 ]
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The US remote has arrived and works perfectly on the EU machine. I already thought that the picture quality of this machine beat my other one, but it turns out that the "High Quality" mode was turned on...now that it's turned off the picture looks even better! No luck however on the Flight of Dragons analogue PAL disc, I've tried all audio options I can think of and still just get a buzzing sound. All I can think of is that for some reason my other player could deal better with laser rot audio problems than this one, whereas this player deals better with visual laser rot problems. I guess I'll just give in on trying to get it to play on this machine. I've also found a remote hack to get the DVD part of the machine region free. I thought I'd post it here in case it's useful to anyone: Press Menu on the remote Select Initial Press Display on the remote The OSD info box will now display information about the player including "ParagonX" (Where X is the current region). Press Condition on the remote Select a number between 1-8 to select the region code (no region 0 available) Press Menu to save I've read that you can only do this with a firmware upgrade but as far as I know my player hasn't had one as the upgrade also changes the "No Disc" message to read "Excel." I found the information here: http://www.adrian-kingston.com/DVL919E.htm The parts I need to fix my machine are now on their way from the US to here so hopefully when I next post I'll be reporting success!