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 Post subject: [DVL-919E] PAL LD with no (Analog) Audio
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2017, 22:02 
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Some time ago I bought (from eBay) this PAL LD: Three Tenors in Concert, The: Carreras/Domingo/Pavarotti (1990) [071 123-1]

For unknown reason this LD has no audio (only kind of white noise in Analog output).
This LD has only Analog audio (and no CX).

Is the disc defective? Or kind of non-standard?
It is the only LD with such problem in my collection - My LD player is Pioneer DVL-919E

Can somebody confirm that audio on his/her version (PAL LD) works?

By the way labels at this DECCA LD have CC and DDD marked on them.
Can I expect Closed Captions on this disc? How Analog LD can be DDD?
(in CD world it means - Digital tape recorder used during initial recording, mixing/editing and for mastering OR Digital recording, Digital mixing, Digital transfer)

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 Post subject: Re: PAL LD with no (Analog) Audio
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2017, 22:09 
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PAL LDs have EITHER analog audio or digital audio. Never both. They occupy the same physical bandwidth in RF carrier. Which player are you using?
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 Post subject: Re: PAL LD with no (Analog) Audio
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2017, 12:39 
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I too have a DVL 919E. I've only got one Analogue only PAL LD and I've never been able to get the sound to play on my machine. The disc is a bit of a rotter but the audio would play fine on my old player. I've never been able to find a user manual for the player but I have seen sites claiming that the DVL 919E can do PAL analogue discs. I've also seen on other person on here saying they can't get PAL analogue disc to play on this player so I'd guess either it can't play them or it's a common fault.

Would love to hear from other owners of this player.
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 Post subject: Re: PAL LD with no (Analog) Audio
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2017, 17:17 
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I have two DVL-919E units and both play PAL analog just fine. I'm going to assume you're hooking up to the RCA L/R jacks, and not one of the digital output, right?
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 Post subject: Re: PAL LD with no (Analog) Audio
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2017, 18:46 
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I have a hazy memory of hearing of a couple of 919e's with minor damage/failure that couldn't play PAL analog for some reason.
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 Post subject: Re: PAL LD with no (Analog) Audio
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2017, 20:36 
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Sounds likes it's maybe a problem with some players. Seems odd that it would just cause a problem with PAL audio and nothing else. On the plus side if it's a problem with just one part of the player it may possibly be repairable.

I've got a copy of the technical manual somewhere, I'll have to dig it out and have a look through and see if I can find anything.
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 Post subject: Re: [DVL-919E] PAL LD with no (Analog) Audio
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2019, 11:19 
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laurikreen wrote:
Some time ago I bought (from eBay) this PAL LD: Three Tenors in Concert, The: Carreras/Domingo/Pavarotti (1990) [071 123-1]

For unknown reason this LD has no audio (only kind of white noise in Analog output).
This LD has only Analog audio (and no CX).

Is the disc defective? Or kind of non-standard?
It is the only LD with such problem in my collection - My LD player is Pioneer DVL-919E

Can somebody confirm that audio on his/her version (PAL LD) works?

Yes the PAL Pioneer DVL players should all handle analogue audio. Some of the earlier CLD models didn't, which seemed a bizarre idea at the time - given the range of PAL titles was small, stopping consumers being able to play some of the earlier film releases for the sake of a tiny bit of circuitry...

I suspect what's happening here is that the disc you mention is actually a digital sound disc - which the 1990 date and lddb listing both demonstrate.

However if the disc has started rotting, the digital soundtrack can often be the first thing to go. DVL players won't find it, will identify the disc as 'Analog' and play the white noise you've been hearing. This happens to a lot of the initial 'gold' CD-Video discs pressed at PDO Blackburn, although I don't know where the disc you have was pressed.
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 Post subject: Re: [DVL-919E] PAL LD with no (Analog) Audio
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2019, 13:47 
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yaffle2345 wrote:
This happens to a lot of the initial 'gold' CD-Video discs pressed at PDO Blackburn, although I don't know where the disc you have was pressed.

Well the database entry does mention "yellow" for plastic colour, which is consistent with a CD-Video disc.
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 Post subject: Re: [DVL-919E] PAL LD with no (Analog) Audio
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2019, 13:52 
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That disc has only digital sound
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