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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
PostPosted: 19 Apr 2019, 07:05 
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isn't there any way to "download" the archive? I sure hope one day it doesn't dissapear...?
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 Post subject: What about ripping LDs?
PostPosted: 19 Sep 2020, 16:04 
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I hope this is an appropriate post in the right thread. This is all about hardware, so I wanted to post about ripping! I have VIDBOX 9.0 that I got from Best Buy, that I use to convert VCR tapes to mpeg files, or to playable DVDs. Many people may like to rip their laserdiscs, especially since there are a number of LD that have exclusive commentary, that can't be found on DVD. Should we start a ripper user list that offers to get your LD in the mail, rip them, and then send them back to you, for a price? This may be an entire sub-business within itself! And what about the legal aspect? Some copyright lawyers can be real NAZIS when it comes to something that you own and have paid for!
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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
PostPosted: 19 Sep 2020, 16:18 
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Technically you don't own the film you bought, you sort of own a share of it, this doesn't mean you can do as you please.
There are laws and those lawyers are attacking you due to laws that have been written and if they get changed then you can
change your ways.

As for copying its not legal and they say so in the beginning of every disc or film you own since the 70s.
Unless the copyright is expired or no longer due to music or added scenes then you can't own anything unless
you actually own the rights to said media.

BTW i'm no lawyer just know what is right and wrong.
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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
PostPosted: 20 Sep 2020, 00:47 
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You have reminded me of some cold, dark truth, my Master! I see it to be like the issue of not being able to transfer VHS to home made DVD. It seems that we have to just let our VCR tapes rot because of copyright. Believe me, I see your point! What made me question details is that since so many Youtubers started invoking the Fair Use Act to display clips of movies and TV shows, I debate with myself as to how much the lawyers will let us stretch it. I once read that the issue of VCR taping TV programs went to the Supreme Court. The SC ruled that as long as it was for personal use, and not be displayed publicly, or mass-produced, or such, that it was OK. Technically, it is the literal act of piracy, like you stated, so the real issue is to see whether the laws change with that. I remember in the old Commodore 64 days, the cracking software that would allow you to copy games, had disclaimer labels saying "For archival backup only" like if you lost the original, or the original got corrupted. I'd hope that the lawyers would allow that, but I'm no lawyer.
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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
PostPosted: 20 Sep 2020, 02:17 
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I would love to figure out how one could publicly show a film that may not be in circulation anymore
but only on LD or DVD etc due to music or a different cut, theatrical cut where only the extended or directors cut is available now.

There was a place in Nashville that would show films in the basement of their shop, think it was black crow or something.
Totally illegal and would actually charge to see the films, while I never went it was a cool concept and would love to figure
something like that out for possible outdoor or? to get these films seen by others so they can enjoy.

I think it would be easier if one owned the copyright or paid for the rental of the film for the day or showing.

There are two local theaters here in DE that have done similar, one had a showing of GWTW and it was clearly from the
old 2 DVD version and they had an intermission during the change of disc.
Can't figure out how they got away with that and charged full ticket price :think:

Other did some horror films and I know they were totally illegal and had no rights to show it but it was all non profit, so
an illegal non profit for film to keep a theater alive :lol:
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This is the final database version I tried to customize to work for LD players, but also other types of devices.

It has modules (LD, CD, DVD, MUSE, etc.) and should be flexible enough -- more specific fields can be added if needed -- for most devices:

(structure was heavily modified, this copy/paste was obsolete)


A few rough examples:

https://www.lddb.com/hardware/1344/ac3rf/Yamaha/APD-2
https://www.lddb.com/hardware/1320/ac3rf/Pioneer/RFD-1
https://www.lddb.com/hardware/664/player/Pioneer/HLD-X0

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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
PostPosted: 19 Oct 2021, 11:15 
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admin wrote:
A few rough examples


And few more:

https://www.lddb.com/hardware/1330/muse/Sony/MSC-4000
https://www.lddb.com/hardware/1318/ldg/Pioneer/LG-1

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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
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Not so rough anymore: added icons/visuals and the Database field is now automatically replaced with a local translation (by default: English).

https://www.lddb.com/hardware/1340/muse/Victor/JVC/HV-MD2
https://www.lddb.com/hardware/1285/ac3rf/Lexicon/LDD-1
https://www.lddb.com/hardware/700/player/Pioneer/LD-S9
https://www.lddb.com/hardware/580/player/Pioneer/CLD-R5
https://www.lddb.com/hardware/1346/muse/Panasonic/TW-HMD310HD

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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
PostPosted: 19 Oct 2021, 16:02 
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looks good. is constructing the hardware database harder to do than first creating the movie one?
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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
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xtempo wrote:
looks good. is constructing the hardware database harder to do than first creating the movie one?


Harder no... but I'm spending more time at the beginning to do it right and avoid all the code to maintain in parallel for multi-format like LD/CED/VHD/etc.

Trying to get one code to handle all hardware from the start, and let it discover the database instead of hard-coding a lot of things.
This way, if a new field (connector, function, etc.) is added, it will be available right away with next to 0 code upgrade needed.

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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
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Nice! Looking forward.

Could add a field for remote or side change mechanism (alpha, gamma, epsilon).

Would it make sense to have something to denote internals? i.e. Audio Assembly VWV1274. It is really helpful when determining "x is a re-badge of y", "x is a slightly upgraded y" type of questions.

Also not sure what the field would be called but something to denote what "family" the player belongs to? i.e. something to group CLD-D503/D570/D703/D770/D704
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cplusplus wrote:
Could add a field for remote or side change mechanism (alpha, gamma, epsilon).

Would it make sense to have something to denote internals? i.e. Audio Assembly VWV1274. It is really helpful when determining "x is a re-badge of y", "x is a slightly upgraded y" type of questions.

Also not sure what the field would be called but something to denote what "family" the player belongs to? i.e. something to group CLD-D503/D570/D703/D770/D704


Remote is of course in the pipe, as well as DAC chips and notable internal parts (belts, m-holder, optical block, etc.).
This we way can lookup which other player use the same DAC or has the same parts (if known).

HW_OEM will be used to point that this player is a rebadged/modified/etc. version of another player.
Did not plan to handle "families" but we can add notes to that effect.

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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
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admin wrote:
Did not plan to handle "families" but we can add notes to that effect.

Sounds like a plan!

For the Level III possible choices are N/A, LaserBarcode, or LaserBarcode 2.
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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
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Harder no... but I'm spending more time at the beginning to do it right and avoid all the code to maintain in parallel for multi-format like LD/CED/VHD/etc.


... and of course I had to make LOTS of changes in the past few days to accommodate more devices... It never ends :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
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Got the DAC list down to the one below.

Couldn't easily find another chip used in LD Players but we might add more as we discover them.

  • AD1862 (Analog Devices)
  • CX20017 (SONY)
  • LC78620E (Sanyo)
  • LC7881 (Sanyo)
  • LC7883K (Sanyo)
  • MB40778 (Fujitsu)
  • PCM1702P (Burr-Brown)
  • PCM1702P-K (Burr-Brown)
  • PCM1716 (Burr-Brown)
  • PCM56P (Burr-Brown)
  • PCM58P (Burr-Brown)
  • PCM61P (Burr-Brown)
  • PD2026A (Pioneer)
  • PD2026B (Pioneer)
  • PD2029AM (Pioneer)
  • PE8001A (Pioneer)
  • SAA7220 (Philips)
  • SAA7312 (Philips)
  • SAA7350GP (Philips)
  • TC9237N (Toshiba)
  • TC9400F (Toshiba)
  • TDA1541A (Philips)
  • TDA1541A (Philips)
  • TDA1541A-S1 (Philips)

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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
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The "Player" databaseI tried 12+ years ago was a failure -- we'll call it v0.1 -- , and the LD/CED/VHD/DVHS/HDDVD side was taking too much of my time.

Here comes v0.2 (highly beta and internal dev for now) with a broader scope for all kinds of devices.

This is the visual equivalent of the table structure, just more user-friendly than entering SQL statements manually.

Among things still needed:

  1. Link the Remote, User Manual, Service Manual and the PDFs folder
  2. Link relevant parts (initially I tried to recreate the Service Manual but it's WAY too time-consuming)
  3. Allow LD Player to have more than one LD (some had 2 or more)
  4. Find a picture of the ST Glass output of the HLD-X0
  5. Replace the SQL Sets with a separate table (too much extra code for very little gain)
  6. Allow users to submit new devices/updates existing ones/add notes BONUS: the submit has a PREVIEW now!
  7. Collection/Wishlist are next -- there will be an additional field to input your Serial Number

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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
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In beta-test mode now.

Send me a PM to get a link to enable Hardware/Device submit!

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The index/landing page will also get a refresh, here is a prototype:

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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
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The first live submit w/ preview worked!

=> HD DVD player Integra DHS-8.8

3rd one is using the admin "Clone" function, that might become a user function as well -- it still have one bug on the checkboxes pre-populating that I need to fix soon:
=> A multi-voltage model DENON AVD-2000 I found selling in Singapore here)

4th one is a fresh submit for a LD player that was missing: SONY HDL-2000 (HDVS)

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 Post subject: Re: Hardware Database
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Totally forgot the extra power outlets (switched or unswitched).

Added now!

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Ex: https://www.lddb.com/hardware/1330/muse/Sony/MSC-4000

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are these pictures ok for the SP-99D box?

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