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| Author: | cplusplus [ 17 May 2020, 20:02 ] |
| Post subject: | List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
(admin updates from Laser Video Guide Winter 1997 in blue) Denon
EAD
Farouja
Hitachi
Kenwood
Magnavox
Marantz
McIntosh
Mitsubishi
MSB
Nikkodo
Onkyo
Panasonic
Philips
Pioneer
Proscan
Quasar
RCA
Realistic
Runco
Samsung
Sanyo
Sharp
Sony
Teknika
Theta
Yamaha
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| Author: | substance [ 17 May 2020, 21:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
Theta Voyager $6,500 + options (progressive scan, digital sdi and serial control add ons) |
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| Author: | rein-o [ 17 May 2020, 21:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
cplusplus wrote: Pioneer LD-S1 ¥250,000/$2,000 That's amazing, if you use an inflation calculator then by todays price this would be approximately $4678.63 Thanks for starting this thread. |
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| Author: | substance [ 17 May 2020, 22:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
rein-o wrote: cplusplus wrote: Pioneer LD-S1 ¥250,000/$2,000 That's amazing, if you use an inflation calculator then by todays price this would be approximately $4678.63 Thanks for starting this thread. Yeah now such a device today would sell maybe 1 unit per month at the best buy lol. People complain about Nvidia Shield at $200 compared to $80 Roku. |
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| Author: | signofzeta [ 18 May 2020, 02:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
The Pioneer prices look more like list price than MSRP. They are way high. I bought an S201 for $370 or something like that and people I knew bought S250s (nearly the same) for even less. The S104 had the same $299.99 price list or MSRP. That was the cheapest player ever and it had the price that ended in 9s to prove it.  The LD-W1 price seems closer to list... |
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| Author: | rein-o [ 18 May 2020, 02:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
I got the non talking/listening roku for 30 bucks total from wallyworld. |
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| Author: | cplusplus [ 18 May 2020, 03:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
signofzeta wrote: The Pioneer prices look more like list price than MSRP. They are way high. I bought an S201 for $370 or something like that and people I knew bought S250s (nearly the same) for even less. By MSRP I mean List Price/Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. They are way high indeed, with a significant amount of these players having a retail price that was hundreds less than the MSRP. I have some of those numbers from retail advertisements:
signofzeta wrote: The LD-W1 price seems closer to list... The LD-W1 price was much lower than I thought, but this is from a 1989 issue of Consumers Digest. "List": $1,700 "Best": $1,440. Another article from 1988 confirms the $1,700. This really was the buy! |
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| Author: | signofzeta [ 18 May 2020, 03:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
List is the high price, what installers change. Installers and Amway. Retail/street/MSRP is the low price, what stores charge. In the old days it was illegal to fix prices so stores would knock hundreds off to compete and still make actual money. Because of this every player likely had many prices before the last one is sold. Nowadays Apple/Sony/Nintendo set a price with zero profit in it and if you charge more or less they sue the seller and somehow that’s legal... |
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| Author: | saeba [ 18 May 2020, 10:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
WOW ! I never knew that LD players were that expensive back then, truly was a format for the rich. Thanks for all these infos cplusplus. |
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| Author: | laserfanhld-gb [ 18 May 2020, 10:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
Over here in PAL land when I purchased my first ever brand new LD player a Pioneer CLD-2950 in 1995 it set me back £699/€783. This was exactly at the time it was being phased out in favour of its successor the CLD-D925 which from memory was another £100/€112 on top. |
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| Author: | tasuke [ 18 May 2020, 14:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
at $1300 list, i imagine the 1988 CLD-3030 must have been like $1000 tops on the street in the U.S. and the U.S. Military Post Exchange market could clearly offer them up for far less still;   
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| Author: | signofzeta [ 18 May 2020, 16:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
ryosaeba84 wrote: WOW ! I never knew that LD players were that expensive back then, truly was a format for the rich. Thanks for all these infos cplusplus. It’s not just LD, it was everything electronics. Pioneer never make a $79 sound bar to hook to a $1000 player. Many TVs were thousands of dollars back then. $1500 VCRs weren’t uncommon but you still needed $400 for a halfway decent one up until 1990 or so. The Japanese market was intense with $300 Walkmans and $1500 ghetto blasters. It was made of real metal. Not by slaves and robots in China. It was built to last forever (hence this forum in 2020 still going) and not to be replaced by an annual update. The stuff that’s still being made this way is still expensive but rarely is it done. Today’s product designer mainly works to eliminate the entire product from existence or as close to it as possible so they can charge for software. When my oldest players were made gas was $0.80 a gallon and a new Chevy S-10 pickup truck could be bought for $6000. You could get two 16.9 Oz glass bottles of Coke for $1. The average American home was $100,000 (now more like $400,000). An average phone bill was $12 and you rented the phone. Today people actually spend $1000 on a phone and $150 a month for the bill. That would be a lot of LD players... Also back then, music cost money. Sometimes just to hear a song...period, because there was no other way, you spent $15 on an import single. Even domestic 7”s were $3 each, $1.50 a song. People do still pay for music but it’s no longer a mainstream thing. |
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| Author: | je280 [ 18 May 2020, 17:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
laserfanhld-gb wrote: Over here in PAL land when I purchased my first ever brand new LD player a Pioneer CLD-2950 in 1995 it set me back £699/€783. This was exactly at the time it was being phased out in favour of its successor the CLD-D925 which from memory was another £100/€112 on top. Yes the CLD-D925 had an SSSP or "list price" of £799 when first released here in the UK, there were very few retailers discounting it by much for the first year or so. |
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| Author: | laserfanhld-gb [ 18 May 2020, 19:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
je280 wrote: laserfanhld-gb wrote: Over here in PAL land when I purchased my first ever brand new LD player a Pioneer CLD-2950 in 1995 it set me back £699/€783. This was exactly at the time it was being phased out in favour of its successor the CLD-D925 which from memory was another £100/€112 on top. Yes the CLD-D925 had an SSSP or "list price" of £799 when first released here in the UK, there were very few retailers discounting it by much for the first year or so. Thanks for confirming! |
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| Author: | cplusplus [ 18 May 2020, 22:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
laserfanhld-gb wrote: je280 wrote: laserfanhld-gb wrote: Over here in PAL land when I purchased my first ever brand new LD player a Pioneer CLD-2950 in 1995 it set me back £699/€783. This was exactly at the time it was being phased out in favour of its successor the CLD-D925 which from memory was another £100/€112 on top. Yes the CLD-D925 had an SSSP or "list price" of £799 when first released here in the UK, there were very few retailers discounting it by much for the first year or so. Thanks for confirming! Thanks indeed. I've knocked £1 off the price I had in the name of accuracy. 
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| Author: | jd213 [ 22 May 2020, 16:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
I got my DVL-909 from Crutchfield for $1000 back in 1998. Was quite a bit for me at the time, but I really wanted both an LD player and a DVD player, and as luck would have it, it was easy enough to mod the DVD part of the 909 to play Region 2 DVDs as well, so I ended up playing a lot of Japanese DVDs on it as well as LDs. Only other player I bought new was the CLD-R5 in 2007 (the last model Pioneer still made then) for 36,286 yen from Amazon JP. Soon bought a used HLD-X9 for 100,000 yen to replace it. |
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| Author: | admin [ 08 Jan 2022, 13:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
All MSRPs added to the hardware database, thank you! Only few issues: M-V7057 $1,99 => I believe $1,299 CLD-870 $500 => should be CLD-V870? CLK-V90 $1,900 => should be CLK-V900? And this one is listed twice: CLD-3030 $900 CLD-3030 $1,300 Julien |
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| Author: | cplusplus [ 13 Jan 2022, 01:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
M-V7057 was your edit, but CLD-870 should be LD-870. CLK-V90 was written verbatim in Popular Mechanics, July 1992 Page 45 but it might have been a typo of CLK-V900. CLD-3030 I can't find my source for, but $1,300 was probably MSRP with an advertised price being $900. |
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| Author: | admin [ 21 Jan 2022, 10:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
Updated the prices, power/dimensions on a bunch of players found in a stack of Pioneer brochures/material I acquired a while ago:
Julien |
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| Author: | kimlaughton [ 25 Jul 2023, 18:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Laserdisc Player MSRPs |
Not sure if useful but found that Wikipedia has a long list of Japanese player prices from various manufacturers: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%AC ... 4%E3%83%BC |
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