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 Post subject: Subtitle entry request
PostPosted: 26 Apr 2024, 17:52 
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Hi. I'd like to request a change to the site. Right now, when you enter the subtitles for a disc, the Chinese entries are mostly incorrect. Backing up slightly, there are several dialects and written forms. The most common spoken dialects are Mandarin (mainland China and most other countries where Chinese is spoken, including Taiwan) and Cantonese (primarily Hong Kong and Macau). These are separate from the written forms of Chinese. The two most common forms are Simplified and Traditional Chinese, where once again, it's primarily a split between most of the world (Simplified) and HK/MA/TW (Traditional). It's all a bit more nuanced than that, but for the purposes of this site, it's close enough.

Anyway, under "Subtitles," the entries aren't quite right. They list Cantonese, Mandarin, and English/Chinese. I don't really mind English/Chinese. However, I'd really appreciate it if the other two could be replaced. If a database needs to be updated, I would, if possible, replace all removed entries based on the country. I seriously doubt there are any Taiwanese releases with Simplified Chinese subs. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Subtitle entry request
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2024, 12:14 
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Definitely needs an update/clean-up.

Was also an issue with Some of the database language options...

Will review your inputs and try to amend the database the best I can.

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 Post subject: Re: Subtitle entry request
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2024, 13:53 
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Thanks! I saw the post you linked. That was an example of how, technically speaking, it's complicated, but it's perfectly fine to stick to the splits that I mentioned. Just to clarify what you typically find in various countries/regions, here you go.

Hong Kong & Macau - Cantonese / Traditional Chinese (Many LDs also have Mandarin, presumably to make it easier to sell copies elsewhere.)
Taiwan - Mandarin / Traditional Chinese
Everywhere else - Mandarin / Simplified Chinese
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 Post subject: Re: Subtitle entry request
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2024, 17:13 
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First step, clean up the subtitles list:

  • Cantonese => Traditional Chinese
  • Mandarin => Simplified Chinese
  • Taiwanese => Traditional Chinese

Then:

  • Taiwan subtitles updated to => Traditional Chinese (previous Taiwanese/Cantonese merged into Traditional Chinese)
  • Singapore subtitles updated to => Simplified Chinese (even though one was described as Traditional)

I didn't mass update the others because many Karaoke releases might cross Cantonese/Mandarin to keep the original lyrics.

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 Post subject: Re: Subtitle entry request  Topic is solved
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2024, 17:27 
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Awesome! Thank you so much. Poked around a little bit. All the auto-updates I found looked correct. I'm able to add the correct sub entries to updated/new entries too. I think we're good. :) Some entries may have user-induced errors but there's not much you can do about that. I'll fix what I can over time.
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 Post subject: Re: Subtitle entry request
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2024, 18:48 
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Thanks, this is a great update. Looking forward to fixing what releases I can (in my collection mostly) as soon as possible.
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