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 Post subject: Title input doesn't make any sense -- and won't
PostPosted: 03 Apr 2024, 19:20 
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So I haven't added a new title for some time, its been like this all the time but makes no sense.

You ask for:
1 International Title
2 Cover Title
3 Original Title


If you can change the order to make them in sequence so that:

Cover Title is 1
Original title is 2
International title is 3

Your current method is imbecilic.


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 Post subject: Re: Title input doesn't make any sense.
PostPosted: 04 Apr 2024, 03:03 
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rein-o wrote:
If you can change the order to make them in sequence so that:

Cover Title is 1
Original title is 2
International title is 3

Your current method is imbecilic.


Depends on the point of view.

Your method would work horribly for titles in Japanese, Chinese, Korean, etc. unless you're fluent in all languages.

The rule of thumb is:

1/ usual title (in English, to make the search fast)
2/ actual cover title (in the local language, still searchable as a secondary field)
3/ alternate/original/translated title for further information

Not changing this, it's there to help searching.

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 Post subject: Re: Title input doesn't make any sense -- they do
PostPosted: 04 Apr 2024, 03:18 
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 Post subject: Re: Title input doesn't make any sense -- they do
PostPosted: 04 Apr 2024, 12:47 
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rein-o wrote:
So I haven't added a new title for some time, its been like this all the time but makes no sense.

You ask for:
1 International Title
2 Cover Title
3 Original Title


If you can change the order to make them in sequence so that:

Cover Title is 1
Original title is 2
International title is 3

Your current method is imbecilic.


You don’t do a great job of explaining your thinking there. I don’t have any opinion one way or the other. I certainly wouldn’t be insulting the admin about it directly.
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 Post subject: Re: Title input doesn't make any sense -- they do
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2024, 16:53 
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When you submit the cover title, this should be the main title as its the title on the cover of the disc in question.

Main title is the cover title, this should be first position in the database listing, and on any searching of said title.

Cover title is what is on the cover, not the international title, international title is not on the cover, while it is nice to have on the database page
it should not be listed as the first title for said disc of title.

Hope that's clear enough :yawn:
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 Post subject: Re: Title input doesn't make any sense -- they do
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2024, 17:13 
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rein-o wrote:
Main title is the cover title, this should be first position in the database listing, and on any searching of said title.


OK so if you look for "Evangelion", you would rather get this as a result?

  • Neon Genesis Evangelion #1: Ep. 1-4
  • Neon Genesis Evangelion #2: Ep. 5-8
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:1
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:10
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:11
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:12
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:13
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:14
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:2
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:3
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:4
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:5
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:6
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:7
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:8
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:9
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:X
  • エヴァンゲリオン交響楽映像版
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン 劇場版 BOX
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン 劇場版 BOX

How about covers in foreign languages we don't know how to read?

Have them all filled up with ??? as a result?

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 Post subject: Re: Title input doesn't make any sense -- they do
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2024, 19:01 
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rein-o wrote:
Main title is the cover title, this should be first position in the database listing, and on any searching of said title.


OK so if you look for "Evangelion", you would rather get this as a result?

  • Neon Genesis Evangelion #1: Ep. 1-4
  • Neon Genesis Evangelion #2: Ep. 5-8
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:1
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:10
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:11
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:12
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:13
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:14
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:2
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:3
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:4
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:5
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:6
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:7
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:8
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:9
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Genesis 0:X
  • エヴァンゲリオン交響楽映像版
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン 劇場版 BOX
  • 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン 劇場版 BOX

How about covers in foreign languages we don't know how to read?

Have them all filled up with ??? as a result?

Julien


Is that correct? how would you answer that????

Look at the title I just added that you just approved, what is the cover title that I listed, what is the cover title in English,
what is the international title that is NOT on the cover anywhere.
There are a lot of examples like this on the database, not just the one I added.

So sure, add the Japanese title if someone put that in like you are saying above, then put the translation, then put the international title.

Cover title - actual title on cover if and when no other title is posted on said cover.

English title, or title of film, may or may not be the title on the cover but we all know that this is .....

Foreign title, or international title, title that the film may go under in another country, may be wrong in translation
but some know it as this.

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 Post subject: Re: Title input doesn't make any sense -- they do
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2024, 19:03 
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Please don't edit my subject titles, They Do was not mine.

I just made an edit on the disc I added.
Please remove the cover title as its not correct, and nowhere does it have this title, this was a VHS release of the title and we don't know
how correct it is.

Please leave the Japanese Kanji and English translation as posted on the cover, I will try to update and send you a cover picture.
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 Post subject: Re: Title input doesn't make any sense -- they do
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2024, 02:43 
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rein-o wrote:
Is that correct? how would you answer that????


You are answering my question with a question, what is your answer then?

rein-o wrote:
Look at the title I just added that you just approved, what is the cover title that I listed, what is the cover title in English,
what is the international title that is NOT on the cover anywhere.
There are a lot of examples like this on the database, not just the one I added.


(put links, it's easier to follow)

OK you submitted this title: Dark Warrior (1991) [SEL0445J92]

Since 66% of the user base here is North America, and 61% USA, and I looked up the English/International name on IMDb because you didn't provide the IMDb#.

=> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285506/

Since it's a Hong Kong release, did you provide the Chinese cover title or the Japanese cover title?
Or maybe it has both?

Still you can look up for the Kanji title and it will still find it, so I remain on my position that the usual English/international title is more useful as the default than sticking to cover-only as the main result, or the searches will quickly become unusable or require too much time to find things.

https://www.lddb.com/search.php?search=%E9%AD%94%E5%AE%AE%E6%88%A6%E5%A0%B4&sort=title

Quote:
Dark Warrior (1991)
[Cover] 魔宮戦場
[Alt.] Makyu Senjo


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PostPosted: 09 Apr 2024, 16:14 
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