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Author:  acuozzo [ 20 Jan 2017, 18:18 ]
Post subject:  DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
There are four DiscoVision package types:
    1. Large Open-top Box
    2. Open-top Box
    3. Side-open Sticker
    4. Printed

For some titles some are more rare than others. Would it be possible to include some words when a seller is listing a title to suggest they include the package type? It would reduce unnecessary PMs considerably. Thanks!
Author:  nems [ 21 Jan 2017, 03:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
This is a good idea. I think we also need a link to a visual reference guide somewhere. Otherwise, those not overly familiar with the various packaging types are bound to get confused (e.g. large open-top box mixed up with open-top box). Blam doesn't happen to have this covered on one of his web pages, does he?
Author:  signofzeta [ 21 Jan 2017, 03:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
Apparently this genuinely is something that needs explaining because I don't get what you're saying. All the Discovision I've seen (or noticed) are just...LDs. Same jacket as anything.
Author:  rein-o [ 21 Jan 2017, 04:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
Yeah i remember asking and blam posted to answer.
The large top open boxes are like pizza boxes made of styrofoam and has paper covering the styrofoam.
Then there are the normal sleeves like all LDs have.
Originally they were all silver and generic with stickers added, then they started printing those V images.
Author:  acuozzo [ 06 Apr 2017, 18:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
signofzeta wrote:
Apparently this genuinely is something that needs explaining because I don't get what you're saying. All the Discovision I've seen (or noticed) are just...LDs. Same jacket as anything.

There are several different package types and many titles were released in more than one.

Boxes are internally hinged and flip open to expose the disc(s) inside. Jackets are, of course, what you'd expect.

Before they started printing unique jackets for each title, they made generic packages and printed stickers to adhere to them. The stickers stretched from front to back and would be in the shape of a square with a long triangle on top if you were to remove them. This means that one sticker contains the "V artwork" on the front, the title that shows on the spine, and the information that is on the back.

The "Regular Open-Top Box"
These replaced the large ones (see below) for 3 disc titles and were used for 3, 2, and 1 disc titles until some point in 1979.

Front: https://i.imgur.com/AcztDHs.jpg
Back: https://i.imgur.com/H090LWN.jpg

The "Large Open-Top Box"
These were used for 3 disc titles at launch. They are presented below next to regular-sized ones for comparison.

Comparison 1: https://i.imgur.com/yPfQx0o.jpg (American Graffiti)
Comparison 2: https://i.imgur.com/HhzL0qW.jpg (Battlestar Galactica)
Comparison 3: https://i.imgur.com/OYLN46c.jpg (Looking for Mr. Goodbar)

The "Side-open Sticker (Rounded) Jacket"
These are not much wider than modern jackets. The easiest way to spot them is that the back is black and the sticker is visible.

Front: https://i.imgur.com/PTJLc7D.jpg
Back: https://i.imgur.com/sXJ89sp.jpg

The "Side-open Sticker (Square) Jacket"
Very little is known about when these first appeared and for how long they were used. They are presented here next to rounded ones for comparison.

Comparison 1: https://i.imgur.com/OYLN46c.jpg (Lonely Are The Brave)

The "Printed Jacket"
These are basically modern LD jackets with DiscoVision styling. No sticker was used and the jackets are completely smooth.
Author:  laserdisc_fan [ 06 Apr 2017, 21:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
I've got most of the music discovision titles but they all came in just the printed jackets.
A few I have duplicates of and I did notice there were some variations even amongst the same title.
For example one version of the Fleetwood Mac title came in a plastic coated card jacket that is super tough and water resistant. Another copy of the exact same title had the same cover but no plastic coating so was quite lightweight & flimsy.

That plastic coating would have been a great material to have used on all jackets as it makes them almost indestructible.
Author:  mrrom92 [ 16 Sep 2020, 14:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
acuozzo wrote:
signofzeta wrote:
Apparently this genuinely is something that needs explaining because I don't get what you're saying. All the Discovision I've seen (or noticed) are just...LDs. Same jacket as anything.

There are several different package types and many titles were released in more than one.

Boxes are internally hinged and flip open to expose the disc(s) inside. Jackets are, of course, what you'd expect.

Before they started printing unique jackets for each title, they made generic packages and printed stickers to adhere to them. The stickers stretched from front to back and would be in the shape of a square with a long triangle on top if you were to remove them. This means that one sticker contains the "V artwork" on the front, the title that shows on the spine, and the information that is on the back.

The "Large Open-Top Box"
TODO

The "Regular Open-Top Box"
These replaced the large ones for 3 disc titles and were used for 3, 2, and 1 disc titles until some point in 1979.

Front: https://i.imgur.com/AcztDHs.jpg
Back: https://i.imgur.com/H090LWN.jpg

The "Side-open Sticker (Square) Jacket"
TODO

The "Side-open Sticker (Rounded) Jacket"
These are not much wider than modern jackets. The easiest way to spot them is that the back is black and the sticker is visible.

Front: https://i.imgur.com/PTJLc7D.jpg
Back: https://i.imgur.com/sXJ89sp.jpg

The "Printed Jacket"
TODO




Hello, sorry to drag up an old thread... by any chance do you still have any of the photos planned to go in the to-do sections here? I’m trying to find a visual for the difference between the large & regular open top boxes. :)
Author:  rein-o [ 16 Sep 2020, 15:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
While its amazing how old this topic is and sad that the pics are gone.
Do you need pics so you know what you are selling???
I doubt any real discovision collectors will not know what version of outer packaging they may want or need and
there really isn't much or any of a difference in value for the different sleeves.

But if you want to see what they look like again its a shame those pics aren't available.
Author:  mrrom92 [ 16 Sep 2020, 18:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
rein-o wrote:
While its amazing how old this topic is and sad that the pics are gone.
Do you need pics so you know what you are selling???
I doubt any real discovision collectors will not know what version of outer packaging they may want or need and
there really isn't much or any of a difference in value for the different sleeves.

But if you want to see what they look like again its a shame those pics aren't available.



Nah, not selling anything.... more so I have a better understanding of what I have in my own collection. I only have 2 Discovision titles at the moment (though several others are in my Wantlist) one being Jaws - and I specifically was looking out for as early a copy as possible when I bought it, though without any real knowledge of packaging variations at the time beyond printed boxes and the generic ones with the printed “v” stickers... so I’d definitely want to know which open-top variation I ended up with.


I don’t collect discovision on a hardcore level or anything, but it would be good to have that type of institutional knowledge documented somewhere anyway. The nerds who “just know” won’t be around forever.
Author:  rein-o [ 16 Sep 2020, 22:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
LOL yes I understand.

As for covers I really can't say as I've only had the thinner box sets and 2 disc sleeves which look lie normal sleeves.
the top open boxes are thick enough to hold 2 discs nicely but sometimes hold 3 and really are squeezed in.

Sorry I can't help more, I can try to add pictures of the sleeves I own later.

Here are 2 pictures, I hope they help.

The only types of sleeves I have are these and then 1 later which is thin and holds a single disc like regular sleeves.

First picture has the top edge of 3 films, one is a 2 disc in a box set, 3 disc in the same size box set and a 2 disc in a sleeve.
So my understanding is that they would have a thicker box then went to the smaller box sets then sleeves.

The second picture is of the box open, it really opens like a pizza box or if the label was turned it would open like a normal hinged
box set.

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Author:  mrrom92 [ 17 Sep 2020, 06:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
rein-o wrote:
LOL yes I understand.

As for covers I really can't say as I've only had the thinner box sets and 2 disc sleeves which look lie normal sleeves.
the top open boxes are thick enough to hold 2 discs nicely but sometimes hold 3 and really are squeezed in.

Sorry I can't help more, I can try to add pictures of the sleeves I own later.

Here are 2 pictures, I hope they help.

The only types of sleeves I have are these and then 1 later which is thin and holds a single disc like regular sleeves.

First picture has the top edge of 3 films, one is a 2 disc in a box set, 3 disc in the same size box set and a 2 disc in a sleeve.
So my understanding is that they would have a thicker box then went to the smaller box sets then sleeves.

The second picture is of the box open, it really opens like a pizza box or if the label was turned it would open like a normal hinged
box set.



Thank you for this! Do you happen to know if this style of box is what is referred to upthread as “large open-top” or if it’s “regular open-top” ?

My CAV Jaws (3 LDs) is in this generic open top style with the printed artwork on the “V” sticker. Discs in felt-like inner sleeves. But without anything to definitively compare it to I am not sure if it is the larger or standard sized open-top box.


Would it be correct to assume that the larger style open top boxes are earliest? Ultimately I want an example of what the format/packaging was like in the earliest days of the 1978 Atlanta test-market
Author:  acuozzo [ 17 Sep 2020, 07:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
mrrom92 wrote:
Hello, sorry to drag up an old thread... by any chance do you still have any of the photos planned to go in the to-do sections here? I’m trying to find a visual for the difference between the large & regular open top boxes. :)

I'm very sorry for failing to update it!

Here are some photos from my collection of large open-top boxes next to regular open-top ones.

The large ones are VERY thick.

https://i.imgur.com/yPfQx0o.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HhzL0qW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OYLN46c.jpg

mrrom92 wrote:
Would it be correct to assume that the larger style open top boxes are earliest?

Yes. The general trend is:

Earliest [Large open-top → Regular open-top → Side-open sticker (square) → Side-open sticker (rounded) → Printed] Latest

With that being said, regular open-top boxes were available at launch too. One of the best indicators of a release being "early" is that the copyright notice on the front on the lower right will be in the form of a small sticker rather than printed directed on the box.
Author:  mrrom92 [ 17 Sep 2020, 10:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: DiscoVision Package Type Guidance for Sellers Listing
acuozzo wrote:
mrrom92 wrote:
Hello, sorry to drag up an old thread... by any chance do you still have any of the photos planned to go in the to-do sections here? I’m trying to find a visual for the difference between the large & regular open top boxes. :)

I'm very sorry for failing to update it!

Here are some photos from my collection of large open-top boxes next to regular open-top ones.

The large ones are VERY thick.

https://i.imgur.com/yPfQx0o.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HhzL0qW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OYLN46c.jpg

mrrom92 wrote:
Would it be correct to assume that the larger style open top boxes are earliest?

Yes. The general trend is:

Earliest [Large open-top → Regular open-top → Side-open sticker (square) → Side-open sticker (rounded) → Printed] Latest

With that being said, regular open-top boxes were available at launch too. One of the best indicators of a release being "early" is that the copyright notice on the front on the lower right will be in the form of a small sticker rather than printed directed on the box.



Thanks a ton for this! It’s interesting to see the thicker box side by side with the standard, it looks to be about 1.5x the width… upon closer inspection of my copy of Jaws i guess I would have to say it is in the regular sized open top box. Especially considering the 3 discs are a fairly tight fit, can’t imagine the box getting any smaller and still holding the contents. Copyright notice is directly printed... would you say this definitively rules it out as being from 1978?
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