I've searched the internet far and wide, there's plenty of info on UMDs but jaCK squat as far as Video CD info. Most of what I could find is just bits and pieces of information on Philips CD-i sites. It would be nice to see Video CDs added to the database, as there are some people out there who collect for that format as well.

Also, it would be nice to see a seperate buy/sell/trade/wanted section on the forum. If you're like me and you have very obscure tastes in laserdiscs, you'll often have trouble finding certain laserdisc titles which seem almost non-existant.

VCD was very broadly used as a movie format in East Asia. I'm very much afraid that, due (among other things) to the immense level of bootlegging, any attempt to catalogue those releases is doomed to fail. It would be very much like trying to catalogue all the computer games on CD-ROM.

True true, but the number of titles released in US wasn't quite as extensive, since Philips seemed to be the only company that wanted anything to do with the format in this country. Ah well

VCD could easily be copied and would be as taunting a task as cataloging VHS... They had to put extra "This is an original, copyrighted VCD" sticker in Asia since 99% of the offer was pirate!

I've never seen a UMD in my life. I understood i was was mostly SONY-centered and short-lived? I'm not a big fan of SONY. They screwed up my Mini-Disc and my laptop. I'll personally stay away from them for the next... 20 years or so.

Plus, a UMD Database (inspired by LDDb and administered by a LDDb user - precertvideo) already exists: http://www.umddb.net/

What' I have been considering for a long time are DTS CDs and DVD-A/SACD though.

Julien

Wonderful idea!
I am supporting this!!!

Yeah UMD basically doesn't exist outside PSP, with no official consumer player/recorder. The format is basically dead, since PSP is all download now, and Sony is coming out with a new portable anyway. I believe the last UMD movie released stateside was the Karate Kid remake, not sure if the format is still alive overseas...

I am trying to find the time to retrofit the shops to allow to buy/sell any format currently used on LDDb. It was initially a very LD-centric piece of code. The biggest update was to keep the #LDDB, #DVHSDB, etc. pointers and have an internal UID able to deal with any format.

Shops, Collection, Wishlist will need to me modified as well. It's a big change!

To give you an idea, I'll try to get the Submit/Updates on all formats ready first. That will require substantial modifications to the soundtrack and subtitles code that has fixed choices today whereas HD-DVD can have multiple soundtrack in DD or DTS, SACD can be mono, stereo, 5.1, etc. all in different languages. Tricky.

http://www.lddb.com/submit.php (reloaded)

Julien

Great !

See, this is one of the reasons that I said, long ago, that I thought it would be better if LDDb stuck to LD instead of being a generic "dead AV media database". I think it makes sense to have repositories for those things, but I'm not at all sure it makes sense for them to be part of LDDb. (Maybe as a spinoff or sub-site?)

I concur, Doctor.

I would stay LD. I mean I would like a place to sell my other stuff but hey, amazon and ebay are pretty good for the rest of the stuff. Concentrate on what you know for selling.

Jury is out for me on this ....
I am inclined to agree with publius though.......

If you want to be picky, "other formats" are representing 8.6% of the titles in database right now. I won't touch DVD and BR of course.

CD DTS will add... 100+ titles? DVD-A a few dozens. SACD -- assuming we can track the whole Japanese catalog -- maybe 5,000+?

And I do have discs all of these 3 formats I'd like to add to my collections as well (I'm also a user of LDDb. of course!).

This is only a little step away from Laserdiscs I think. Call LDDb "Lost Disc Database"

Initially, if I had time for this, LDDb might have become the subset of a bigger website. Something like video.___.com and audio.___.com.

I even registered the name just in case: kollexion.com

Julien

Well, the trouble I have is that each format has very specific options & characteristics which don't apply to the others. So, I think it makes sense to have different databases for them, because otherwise the structure of the database becomes very complicated, features become very difficult to implement, & the whole system becomes more problematic for the user as well as the maintainer. It's bad enough now that one can pick "Dolby TrueHD" for audio & "VHD Caddy" for size at the same time, but introducing formats with "video=none" will, I think, really mess things up. Maybe there's a benefit to taking the basic LDDb structure & "cloning" it for other formats, & even linking the various items together on the front page or even by a kind of "master interface", but lumping everything together only reduces the usefulness of the database, in my opinion.

What I could do is add a global/cookie-based option that let's you decide which formats you are interested in. If you set "LD only" then I would filter out all other formats automatically, you would never hear about them at all.

Julien

See, though, that's not my issue. As these other formats are insignificant in number of releases compared to LD (except maybe VHD), having them turn up in search results or browsing is a minor annoyance if anything. The trouble is in reconciling the very different requirements of databases for these different formats. The result will always be less satisfactory than that of creating multiple, more specialized, parallel databases following some "natural" lines of separation, eg : LD & its close relatives, vinyl/stylus formats (VHD & CED), tape format (DVHS), audio-only formats (DVD-A, SACD) ; or, maybe, analog video media (LD, VHD, CED), digital video media (HD-DVD, DVHS), audio-only media. Now, there are still questions to be resolved, eg, where does AHD go?, but some of, eg, the problems with implementing new features are reduced very much.

This might be implemented using, eg, some kind of sub-site system, with an integrated collection/wishlist interface. Then, for example, you could add a "marketplace" section for each sub-site when you got its details worked out, but have one master list of sellers, & opening a Shop page would show the inventory (if any) for the sub-site currently being viewed, plus links to the equivalent pages on other sub-sites.


As it is, I really do believe that attempting to support these other formats is impeding the development of LDDb as a tool for the LD collector more than it is helping the collectors of the other formats.

But people with legit VCD collections (like myself) could enter in their own collections. The Database would grow as people entered in their collections. The same could apply to DVDs. I have over 1,500 DVDs that I would love to enter.

STAY AWESOME!

You do realize that there are other databases for DVD?

No. Could you provide a link? I've just started adding my UMDs to the UMD Database.
http://www.umddb.net/

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I've now started adding my UMDs to the database. Thanks for the link!

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