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 Post subject: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 17 Apr 2019, 02:06 
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Howdy folks,

If this has come up before, then I apologize for being boring, but I was thinking about movies in a series that have different aspect ratios. Some are obvious and memorable, others I had completely forgot about. I don't want to use them all up, so I'll just start off with Alien to Aliens. With Ridley using his beloved scope and James Cameron using a 1.85:1 ratio (flat?).
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 17 Apr 2019, 05:12 
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I just got the Gojira Showa era box for Toho Champion Matsuri (a film festival for kids that reissued classic G stuff in the '70s) and everything is 2.35:1 and my Heisei stuff that's on the slow boat from Japan and I know and love from SBS TV Australia's subbed run in the '90s is all 1.85:1 I believe..


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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 17 Apr 2019, 16:47 
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Are all the James Bond films the same AR?
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 17 Apr 2019, 18:08 
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No, those are a good example.
They vary from 1.66, 1.85 to 2.35
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 18 Apr 2019, 03:44 
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The first two Godzilla movies were also in 1.33:1, with the rest being shown in 2.35:1 from King Kong vs Godzilla onwards and then I think Heisei films were all 1.85:1.
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 18 Apr 2019, 05:54 
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takeshi666 wrote:
The first two Godzilla movies were also in 1.33:1, with the rest being shown in 2.35:1 from King Kong vs Godzilla onwards and then I think Heisei films were all 1.85:1.


Yep, the Toho Champion Matsuri box covers 8 (shortened) films from the Showa era including King Kong vs Godzilla. It also has Mothra, also in 2.35:1 which is actually earlier than KK vs G, but not officially a Godzilla film I guess.
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 18 Apr 2019, 09:30 
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The James Bond movies are a little weirder in the sense that the aspect ratio didn't just shrink over time, I know the first two were in 1.66:1, I forget which Goldfinger was but Thunderball was 2.35:1, but then the early Roger Moore movies (or at least Live and Let Die anyway) were in 1.85:1 before going back to 2.35:1 again.

The really weird stuff is when the aspect ratio changes within the movie, like Albert Gance's Napoleon or Be Forever Yamato. Handling the change on home video must be a pain since you can't just change the aperture of the TV itself, so the picture ends up getting smaller instead of bigger.
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 18 Apr 2019, 14:37 
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The IMAX scenes for Nolan's Batman were annoying because I would rather they make the whole movie in IMAX then randomly have scenes with the IMAX ratio. For that matter mainly just stick with one ratio and not do special scenes in IMAX.
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 18 Apr 2019, 21:00 
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rein-o wrote:
No, those are a good example.
They vary from 1.66, 1.85 to 2.35


That is a good example. I didn't realize the first couple films were 1.66:1. I wonder if that is from their British influence?
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 18 Apr 2019, 22:14 
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I think its more due to cost, weren't 1.33 or type cheaper than widescreen back in the day???
You could just matte it out to 1.66 or 1.85 for different cinemas.

Don't know much about that end of the biz but it sort of makes sense.
I even feel that those Godzilla films are sometimes either sort of a fisheye lens or shot and matted on the top and bottom due to cost.
Some of the Japanese films have a distorted feel on the edges, I know the Kungfu films sure do even if 2.35
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 19 Apr 2019, 00:31 
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The original Highlander is 1.85:1; Highlander 2, 3 and 4 are all 2.35:1.
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 19 Apr 2019, 01:37 
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Throwing another one out there. Terminator is 1.85:1 and Terminator 2 is 2.39:1. I know James Cameron was big on using Super 35, but when did that come out? I wonder, was it not available when he directed Aliens and Terminator?


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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 20 Apr 2019, 05:59 
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I think Abyss might've been the first to use Super 35?
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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 05 Jul 2019, 18:18 
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takeshi666 wrote:
I think Abyss might've been the first to use Super 35?


According to Empire, Abyss, The (1989) [1561-85] was James Cameron's first use of Super 35 but not the first movie to use it.

They give Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan (1984) [12277] as the first one, with Top Gun (1986) [LV 1692-WS] using it for cockpit sequences.

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 Post subject: Re: Differing Aspect Ratios within a Series
PostPosted: 05 Jul 2019, 21:00 
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Yeah, they had to do it with Top Gun because they couldn't fit a camera with an anamorphic lens on the planes.
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