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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 12 Aug 2019, 23:35 |
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mimylovesjapan wrote: too much discs are in double/tripple/more, and some doesn't exist. Considering how murky many records and even CDs' release history is (not to mention how easy they are to reproduce compared to laserdisc), I do believe Discogs is the best you can do. I do agree it's a freakin' mess, I've tried adding CDs to my collection and tried to scrutinize different database entries and compare them to my own copy and discovered there's barely any or no difference between them at all. My suggestion is that you just arbitrarily pick one and worry about it later.
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 01:52 |
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signofzeta wrote: Heh, no. No way. There are millions of LPs out there. LD lasted 20 years and was popular in two countries (let’s be honest). LP is now over 70 years old with no total break in production and was the most popular format ever in every country in the world at one point, more or less, and is now in resurgence.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there were 100 million different LPs or more. Just think about all the Eastern Bloc stuff and African stuff you’ve never even sort of heard of. Infinity records, really. That's pretty much what I struggled to put into words myself. There is just an insane amount of stuff out there. LP was the format of choice for decades and even after it'd been superceded by compact cassette and CD, it never really went away (there's stuff from the 90's that was only released on vinyl), and like you said, it's now going through a resurgence. It was cheap to manufacture and the technology behind it is so old and simple (groove makes needle vibrate, vibration gets amplified into sound) that even poor countries can afford it. I actually have one of those eastern bloc records, some Red Army Choir music on it, lying about that I haven't been able to listen to on the account of lacking a functioning turntable. As far as actual reviews are concerned, the best place to look are websites dedicated to the specific genre or band you want to read the reviews of, really.
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mimylovesjapan
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 03:58 |
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Yes, that's too bad... If there were a real LP dedicated database, it could be very interesting. Julien ! You know what you have to do now during your free time in Japan !
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 04:06 |
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mimylovesjapan wrote: Yes, that's too bad... If there were a real LP dedicated database, it could be very interesting. Julien ! You know what you have to do now during your free time in Japan ! I actually already have that idea back in 2011 when I was out of job and wondering what to do with my spare time. I registered kollexion.com to eventually move LDDb to laserdisc.kollexion.com, vhd.kollexion.com, stamps.kollexion.com, comics.kollexion.com, etc. But then I got a new job that took 200% of my brain CPU cycles and gave up on it! And Discogs came and did it way better Julien
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mimylovesjapan
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 07:33 |
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LDDB is the best website about collection I ever saw Far better than Discogs ! Just tried again today to do some search on Discogs. What a mess ! They have so many categories, include same categories in triple with different names... like "vinyl", "LP", etc. It's just impossible to do a rational search in this site...
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 08:16 |
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mimylovesjapan wrote: What a mess ! They have so many categories, include same categories in triple with different names... like "vinyl", "LP", etc. It's just impossible to do a rational search in this site... That's because they took the approach of DVDProfiler.com => throw everything in the database, we or others will fix the mistakes later. It goes fast, new titles are added instantly, pictures show up right away. This is the Wikipedia way. But you must live with the constant turmoil, editing, fighting and errors. For LDDb I chose the "administrated" approach where updates are validated only when they make sense and pictures are only added when the quality is high enough. I had no choice initially because the hosting space + database resource were very, very limited. It takes longer but the convergence to the right information has less volatility. Julien
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deadlegion
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 11:06 |
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admin wrote: That's because they took the approach of DVDProfiler.com => throw everything in the database, we or others will fix the mistakes later. It goes fast, new titles are added instantly, pictures show up right away.
This is the Wikipedia way.
But you must live with the constant turmoil, editing, fighting and errors.
For LDDb I chose the "administrated" approach where updates are validated only when they make sense and pictures are only added when the quality is high enough. I had no choice initially because the hosting space + database resource were very, very limited. It takes longer but the convergence to the right information has less volatility.
Julien I have a question. I might be getting a Japanese LD, it's listed here in the database but there isn't a cover picture at the moment. Do I just hit the update button to submit a cover picture? Are there picture size limits for submission or do you resize yourself after submission?
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 13:58 |
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deadlegion wrote: admin wrote: That's because they took the approach of DVDProfiler.com => throw everything in the database, we or others will fix the mistakes later. It goes fast, new titles are added instantly, pictures show up right away.
This is the Wikipedia way.
But you must live with the constant turmoil, editing, fighting and errors.
For LDDb I chose the "administrated" approach where updates are validated only when they make sense and pictures are only added when the quality is high enough. I had no choice initially because the hosting space + database resource were very, very limited. It takes longer but the convergence to the right information has less volatility.
Julien I have a question. I might be getting a Japanese LD, it's listed here in the database but there isn't a cover picture at the moment. Do I just hit the update button to submit a cover picture? Are there picture size limits for submission or do you resize yourself after submission? It's tough. I never could get pictures good enough to where I was happy with them to submit so I never did. There are a bunch of rules.
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deadlegion
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 14:15 |
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gypsy wrote: deadlegion wrote: admin wrote: That's because they took the approach of DVDProfiler.com => throw everything in the database, we or others will fix the mistakes later. It goes fast, new titles are added instantly, pictures show up right away.
This is the Wikipedia way.
But you must live with the constant turmoil, editing, fighting and errors.
For LDDb I chose the "administrated" approach where updates are validated only when they make sense and pictures are only added when the quality is high enough. I had no choice initially because the hosting space + database resource were very, very limited. It takes longer but the convergence to the right information has less volatility.
Julien I have a question. I might be getting a Japanese LD, it's listed here in the database but there isn't a cover picture at the moment. Do I just hit the update button to submit a cover picture? Are there picture size limits for submission or do you resize yourself after submission? It's tough. I never could get pictures good enough to where I was happy with them to submit so I never did. There are a bunch of rules. Hmmm, yeah my camera isn't great and my skills are rusty as hell. Are the rules listed somewhere or do you only see them when you try to submit?
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 17:37 |
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deadlegion wrote: I might be getting a Japanese LD, it's listed here in the database but there isn't a cover picture at the moment. Do I just hit the update button to submit a cover picture? Are there picture size limits for submission or do you resize yourself after submission? If you click on any "picture/cover wanted" => https://www.lddb.com/help_submit.phpThe instructions to take good pictures are there. Julien
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deadlegion
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 21:06 |
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admin wrote: deadlegion wrote: I might be getting a Japanese LD, it's listed here in the database but there isn't a cover picture at the moment. Do I just hit the update button to submit a cover picture? Are there picture size limits for submission or do you resize yourself after submission? If you click on any "picture/cover wanted" => https://www.lddb.com/help_submit.phpThe instructions to take good pictures are there. Julien Thanks.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Database site for LP Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 21:33 |
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mimylovesjapan wrote: LDDB is the best website about collection I ever saw Far better than Discogs ! Just tried again today to do some search on Discogs. What a mess ! They have so many categories, include same categories in triple with different names... like "vinyl", "LP", etc. It's just impossible to do a rational search in this site... I agree. LDDB is one of my favorite sites on the Internet. Doing it right.
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