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laserdisc.ws
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Post subject: Re: LDs sourced from Theatrical Prints instead of IPs Posted: 11 Apr 2018, 22:39 |
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admin wrote: Maybe I should add a "Sourced from theatrical prints (cue marks on screen)" to the extra details of all movies on LDs?
It will be great!!!
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Post subject: Re: LDs sourced from Theatrical Prints instead of IPs Posted: 12 Apr 2018, 05:24 |
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laserdisc.ws wrote: admin wrote: Maybe I should add a "Sourced from theatrical prints (cue marks on screen)" to the extra details of all movies on LDs?
It will be great!!! Maybe we could be a little more comprehensive and add a "Source material" instead with a combo box? I'm not a movie transfer expert but what could be the possible options? (list below if a best guess, probably a few mistakes) - D1 Tape
- D2 Tape
- Interpositive
- Telecine
- 8mm
- Super 8
- 16mm
- 16mm (theatrical prints)
- 35mm
- 35mm (theatrical prints)
- 65mm
- 65mm (theatrical prints)
- 70mm
- 70mm (theatrical prints)
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Post subject: Re: LDs sourced from Theatrical Prints instead of IPs Posted: 12 Apr 2018, 18:28 |
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admin wrote: laserdisc.ws wrote: admin wrote: Maybe I should add a "Sourced from theatrical prints (cue marks on screen)" to the extra details of all movies on LDs?
It will be great!!! Maybe we could be a little more comprehensive and add a "Source material" instead with a combo box? I'm not a movie transfer expert but what could be the possible options? (list below if a best guess, probably a few mistakes) - D1 Tape
- D2 Tape
- Interpositive
- Telecine
- 8mm
- Super 8
- 16mm
- 16mm (theatrical prints)
- 35mm
- 35mm (theatrical prints)
- 65mm
- 65mm (theatrical prints)
- 70mm
- 70mm (theatrical prints)
Julien In reality, it's never ever going to be directly from a theatrical print or other kind of film. The transfer will always be to a video tape master and the LaserDisc will be mastered from that. In the early days of DiscoVision, the transfers were done directly by DV, (but still transferred to tape) and that changed after the studios started making their own master tapes. Anything after the fail of Discovision in 81 would have been provided to Pioneer (or other manufacturer) as a D1 or D2 (or other format) tape. Often with the time code and chapter marks already embedded. In theory, Pioneer used to provide check-discs back to the studios for QC verification. How audio sync issues and other mastering faults made it to the final master is a mystery, although I suspect Image sent the tapes to be pressed and didn't bother with check-discs.
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Post subject: Re: LDs sourced from Theatrical Prints instead of IPs Posted: 03 Nov 2019, 05:21 |
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allenwrench wrote: Just watched How to Murder Your Wife, I noticed that the picture was shifted slightly to the left which put the que marks off screen, only once being partially shown. There are many transfers on LD (& other formats) like that. Also many LDs that quote "presented in the original aspect ratio" or similar wording are often way off the original ratio - surprisingly quite a number of the ROAN LDs carry the "original ratio" quote but are way off & I really would have expected them to have taken more care with details like that.
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Post subject: Re: LDs sourced from Theatrical Prints instead of IPs Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 17:35 |
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blam1 wrote: Anything after the fail of Discovision in 81 would have been provided to Pioneer (or other manufacturer) as a D1 or D2 (or other format) tape. Often with the time code and chapter marks already embedded. Not exactly true since D1 didn't come along until 1986 and D2 in 1988. Prior to that it was all analog tape formats: U-Matic (1971) 1" C (1976) Betacam (1982) BetaSP (1986) LDs are only "Digitally Mastered" after 1986 when D1 was released by Sony. However, since that was a component format it probably didn't happen until after 1988 when Sony released D2 which is composite. What is the first/earliest title with "Digitally Mastered" as a selling point?
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Post subject: Re: LDs sourced from Theatrical Prints instead of IPs Posted: 06 Oct 2020, 08:27 |
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rein-o wrote: I thought I posted that when i did a review of Future War, guess I forgot or didn't Good luck on getting one forper, its HIGH priced, not 10 bucks like macross the TV series Watching Incident at Blood Pass (1970) [AD098-039]this has the cue marks in the film, really nice print also with little damage. I've got a copy of Future War 198X. I think I got it about 5 or so years ago maybe and even then it was not cheap. I'm a smidgen disappointed with it though as it does have a few dropout speckles on it. Nothing super serious but a sign it needs to be digitised sooner rather than later (maybe a rainy weekend project before the end of this year). I got a book with my copy too (separate purchase) called Future War 198X Mechanic Special. It's a nice, thick art and schematics book. You can find a copy a lot easier than the Laserdisc but it still doesn't pop up all that often. Did you know Toshio Maeda worked on the film? Aside from that, I'd add the Japanese release of Mannequin to the list. That one has cue marks all over it, definitely a theatrical transfer. Berlin Blues as well.
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