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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: LD values stay high even if Bluray is released and bette Posted: 03 Apr 2020, 15:41 |
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Totally agree but was just wondering how these prices stay for certain items. There are even the same issues with DVDs to Blurays, a certain film will be on DVD and OOP for many years and asking is something stupid like lets say 60 bucks and then the bluray comes out for 20 but the DVD which should drop doesn't. I can understand on some LDs but with something like a Criterion LD to DVD to Bluray I can't understand that one. LD are priceless to me as well and was looking at my silent film collection to see that if I were to replace on DVD even they would be at least 10 bucks each. So that's a risk I won't take. As for horror titles I've heard and know some reasons that they want all formats etc. But the Criterion to Criterion deal has be baffled.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: LD values stay high even if Bluray is released and bette Posted: 03 Apr 2020, 19:55 |
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Because perceived $$$ value spikes much much faster than it falls. Once something attains a high status for whatever reason, when those reasons change the thing itself is still considered special. It may be special forever because of how heroic it was at one time, now it’s a different kind of special.
This for sure happens with model kits. A new better one comes out...the old one is still worth hundreds. New stuff isn’t real...or it doesn’t seem relevant when you’re in this situation. A white label 12” is always cooler than a CD compilation with that same track on it, even if the 12” sounds like utter crap. I like old models and 12”s so I can speak from experience. With LD its complicated because the only real “first editions” are anime OVAs, sports, scenery discs, karaoke, and music. In the case of anime OVAs I consider the LDs of things like A-ko and Giant Robo to be the only OG version no matter what comes out in any format ever. Everything else is a reprint. The same would go for a lot of music stuff, especially elaborate concert releases from Japanese groups. IMO very few feature films have an LD I’d consider definitive because the LD is just a very inferior copy of a film and BR will do way better with that.
Nobody who loves their favorite thing cares that some Blu-ray came out and in your opinion destroyed the value of it. People who have wanted it for 20 years aren’t going to want it less because some other thing came out, short version.
And as for collectards, it’s simple. Low prices mean stuff is junk so if a $8 BR beats an $800 LD they don’t care.
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gypsy
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Post subject: Re: LD values stay high even if Bluray is released and bette Posted: 03 Apr 2020, 23:07 |
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signofzeta wrote: And as for collectards, it’s simple. Low prices mean stuff is junk so if a $8 BR beats an $800 LD they don’t care. This is true but their logic sucks. Some awesome things are cheap, it does happen. Totally agree about LD being the OG format for some anime. I really want to get AKO at some point. Might be easier to import and add subs than try to find all 4 US LDs.
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teddanson
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Post subject: Re: LD values stay high even if Bluray is released and bette Posted: 04 Apr 2020, 00:09 |
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rein-o wrote: Collectible is another issue i.e. the Godfather set mentioned above but just regular Godfather, why? Other than being a completist. And nothing wrong with being a completist. I thought about doing that with Back To The Future. But then you'd need VHD, CED, MUSE and so on. If there are extras on other formats that are not on the latest, greatest and best quality releases, then I'll pick them up when I can. Like the upcoming 4K releases of the trilogy for example. As for anything else, nope, not for me. The Godfather Epic and Saga are different beasts though. Purely because it's the only way of getting those 7.5hr and 9.5hr (respectively) whopper all-in-one editions. Loads of extra footage, altered scenes and so on. There was an HD version of the 7.5hr version on HBO a couple of years ago, but it was via HBO digital streaming only or the cable channel. I watch my stuff too and use my discs etc rather than have it all sat on shelf wasting time, money and space. Yes, I've watched the 7.5hr version of The Godfather in two sittings (over a weekend). The 9.5hr version I have yet to tackle!
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xtempo
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Post subject: Re: LD values stay high even if Bluray is released and bette Posted: 04 Apr 2020, 11:03 |
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gypsy wrote: signofzeta wrote: And as for collectards, it’s simple. Low prices mean stuff is junk so if a $8 BR beats an $800 LD they don’t care. This is true but their logic sucks. Some awesome things are cheap, it does happen. Totally agree about LD being the OG format for some anime. I really want to get AKO at some point. Might be easier to import and add subs than try to find all 4 US LDs. Must have been lucky when I got mine. Can't remember online or offline. But versus is horrible. Wished I had all them with me but the series got separated at some point. Need the rest of my eurolite cases.
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forper
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Post subject: Re: LD values stay high even if Bluray is released and bette Posted: 04 Apr 2020, 21:46 |
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xtempo wrote: gypsy wrote: signofzeta wrote: And as for collectards, it’s simple. Low prices mean stuff is junk so if a $8 BR beats an $800 LD they don’t care. This is true but their logic sucks. Some awesome things are cheap, it does happen. Totally agree about LD being the OG format for some anime. I really want to get AKO at some point. Might be easier to import and add subs than try to find all 4 US LDs. Must have been lucky when I got mine. Can't remember online or offline. But versus is horrible. Wished I had all them with me but the series got separated at some point. Need the rest of my eurolite cases. Nice, eurolites. At least you know if nuclear war breaks out your LDs will survive it.
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djgates06
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Post subject: Re: LD values stay high even if Bluray is released and bette Posted: 16 Jul 2022, 03:42 |
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speedyink wrote: I sure hope the people buying them are at least watching the damn things Iam mean if they are why wouldn't they lol
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