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 Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd
PostPosted: 28 Apr 2019, 17:45 
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Regarding The Rescuers:

“Disney also maintained that the images were not placed in the film by any of their animators but were instead inserted during the post-production process. The company decided to recall 3.4 million copies of the video “to keep our promise to families that we can trust and rely on the Disney brand to provide the finest in family entertainment.” - snopes

So while it’s a curiosity for sure it’s also basically a prank version of the film doctored to contain two frames of a woman’s chest. It’s not like animators hid something in there in 1977. I think this one may genuinely count as defective. I mean if I remastered Little Nemo and in the process inserted wang pics it wouldn’t be a new version of the movie that everyone needs to have. It would just be polluted.
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 Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2019, 01:45 
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signofzeta wrote:
Regarding The Rescuers:

“Disney also maintained that the images were not placed in the film by any of their animators but were instead inserted during the post-production process. The company decided to recall 3.4 million copies of the video “to keep our promise to families that we can trust and rely on the Disney brand to provide the finest in family entertainment.” - snopes

So while it’s a curiosity for sure it’s also basically a prank version of the film doctored to contain two frames of a woman’s chest. It’s not like animators hid something in there in 1977. I think this one may genuinely count as defective. I mean if I remastered Little Nemo and in the process inserted wang pics it wouldn’t be a new version of the movie that everyone needs to have. It would just be polluted.

I wouldn't say defective. It's on the print that they used as the source for the LD and VHS releases at that time, not added in the production of the LD.

Maybe call it a doctored print.
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 Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2019, 03:15 
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It’s not a defective LD, but it’s a defective version of the movie.

I wish I had it. I’ve been watching the earlier LD lately and it’s not amazing at all.
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 Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2019, 03:31 
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So why was this only on the remastered widescreen version and not the earlier versions?

After reading on snoops I find it amazing that it sounds like they would have used a theatrical print for the reissue, which is not usually
the case with remastered stuff especially Disney stuff.

It would have made more sense to have the nude in the earlier disc not later.

But now its one I must be on the hunt for :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2019, 17:05 
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rein-o wrote:
So why was this only on the remastered widescreen version and not the earlier versions?

After reading on snoops I find it amazing that it sounds like they would have used a theatrical print for the reissue, which is not usually
the case with remastered stuff especially Disney stuff.

It would have made more sense to have the nude in the earlier disc not later.

But now its one I must be on the hunt for :lol:

Obviously Disney used a different print/source for the previous release.

It's just an odd twist of fate that Disney picked out the print with the racy image for the '99 remaster.

As for why they used a print rather than a negative or interpositive? My only guess is that since they used the same transfer for the VHS release the same year (proven by the fact that the topless woman showed up in the VHS release as well and needed to be recalled too), no need to go through the process of using the negative to produce the best picture possible for the muddy VHS release.
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 Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2019, 22:59 
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By the time this LD was released Disney was in the habit of making pristine new prints from the best possible sources and then scanning and correcting those. The topless lady was inserted at that time as part of that process. That seems to be what Snopes says anyway. It makes sense to me. Someone thought they’d make a post Roger Rabbit sort of joke. If Disney made this LD in December 1999 from an actual theatrical print I’d be surprised. It would prove they don’t like the movie very much. Those later Disney LDs are usually extremely good.
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 Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd
PostPosted: 01 May 2019, 00:02 
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signofzeta wrote:
By the time this LD was released Disney was in the habit of making pristine new prints from the best possible sources and then scanning and correcting those. The topless lady was inserted at that time as part of that process. That seems to be what Snopes says anyway. It makes sense to me. Someone thought they’d make a post Roger Rabbit sort of joke. If Disney made this LD in December 1999 from an actual theatrical print I’d be surprised. It would prove they don’t like the movie very much. Those later Disney LDs are usually extremely good.

Well, snopes far from being infallible. From EOnline Jan, 1999:

The offending picture? A nude woman's torso, apparently inserted into the film soon after the cartoon was drawn, according to Associated Press.

In other words, the R-rated footage has been there ever since the Bob Newhart- and Eva Gabor-voiced film about a group of heroic mice trying to rescue a kidnapped girl was released in theaters in 1977, and rereleased in '83 and '89...

...As for who tampered with the film, the studio might have to come up with a retroactive pink slip. "This is something that was done more than 20 years ago," Disney spokewoman Claudia Peters says.

The recall--which only applies to video copies sent to stores this week, since previous copies released in 1992 originated from a different, uncorrupted print--is the first of its kind for Disney.


As for if Disney didn't like the movie much, I would say that's correct. Most of Disney's 70s animated films (Robin Hood, Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, The Aristocats) weren't all that great and it shows. There's a reason why Don Bluth lead a bunch of animators to leave the studio near the end of the 70s since they weren't putting out quality like they used to.
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 Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd
PostPosted: 01 May 2019, 01:08 
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How, exactly, with the way animation is made, does something exist in one print and not another?

The only explanation I can come up with for that would be if the prank was discovered so early on they could reshoot that scene and then they forgot about having done that. Otherwise it makes no sense.

Btw, I straight up love Robin Hood.
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 Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd
PostPosted: 01 May 2019, 11:58 
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signofzeta wrote:
The only explanation I can come up with for that would be if the prank was discovered so early on they could reshoot that scene and then they forgot about having done that. Otherwise it makes no sense.

I think it's more likely they just edited it out then and made a false statement to cover their own necks. They did a similar recall for the Roger Rabbit shorts disc using some technical hiccup as an excuse.
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PostPosted: 01 May 2019, 17:00 
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signofzeta wrote:
How, exactly, with the way animation is made, does something exist in one print and not another?

The only explanation I can come up with for that would be if the prank was discovered so early on they could reshoot that scene and then they forgot about having done that. Otherwise it makes no sense.

Btw, I straight up love Robin Hood.

Can't say for sure how it exists on one but not the other, but it does. Proven by how the toplesss woman isn't on the previous release from the early 90s.
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 Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd
PostPosted: 01 May 2019, 17:03 
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takeshi666 wrote:
I think it's more likely they just edited it out then and made a false statement to cover their own necks. They did a similar recall for the Roger Rabbit shorts disc using some technical hiccup as an excuse.

Yeah, the Roger Rabbit problem was total BS. They recalled it for "color issues" but never re-released it.

Well, they did "re-release" it. In Japan. And with the offending image blurred out.

But why be straightforward with why you're recalling The Rescuers (ie: openly admitting that the image is there) but talk BS about Roger Rabbit?
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PostPosted: 01 May 2019, 17:17 
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takeshi666 wrote:
I think it's more likely they just edited it out then and made a false statement to cover their own necks. They did a similar recall for the Roger Rabbit shorts disc using some technical hiccup as an excuse.

Yeah, the Roger Rabbit problem was total BS. They recalled it for "color issues" but never re-released it.

Well, they did "re-release" it. In Japan. And with the offending image blurred out.

But why be straightforward with why you're recalling The Rescuers (ie: openly admitting that the image is there) but talk BS about Roger Rabbit?

Well, The Rescuers was 20 years old when they finally got around to it, whereas the Roger Rabbit shorts were brand new? I'm guessing it'd been far more embarrassing with a fresh product than a catalog title.
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 Post subject: Re: LDs with Exclusive Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footag
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2020, 19:41 
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Loaded Weapon 1 (1993) [PCLV-10014]
This release is the TV version. While edited for content it contains 13 minutes of additional and extended scenes.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0107659/alternateversions
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Year of the Gun (1991) [91456] LD has all the Italian language parts (a significant chunk of the film) subtitled in English. None of the DVD releases subtitle the Italian scenes, which makes the film almost unwatchable. On a side note, the LD is also OAR 1.85:1 and the DVD versions are 1.66:1
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 Post subject: Re: LDs with Exclusive Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footag
PostPosted: 30 Aug 2020, 03:37 
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laserdiscoking wrote:
Year of the Gun (1991) [91456] LD has all the Italian language parts (a significant chunk of the film) subtitled in English. None of the DVD releases subtitle the Italian scenes, which makes the film almost unwatchable. On a side note, the LD is also OAR 1.85:1 and the DVD versions are 1.66:1

If it's just a matter of scenes not being subtitled on the DVD then it really wouldn't count. Also differing aspect ratios also don't count.

The LD would have to contain a shot or scene that isn't shown on the DVD
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The 1997 Special Editions [PILF-2860 and 4102985] of the Original Trilogy contain the 1997 Jabba, which was replaced with a newer CGI model in all DVD and later Special Editions. Jedi's Victory Celebration doesn't show the Jedi Temple on Coruscant in the 97SE, but the DVD and later do.
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