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grasshopper
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer or Panasonic? Posted: 02 Sep 2015, 00:26 |
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If were going for cosmetic looks, the Runcos(Lx900 clones) always looked nice!!! Just my two-cents
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jakeheke
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer or Panasonic? Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 05:58 |
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lonerangerface wrote: I may have heard tell that Panasonic LD players are less liable to get errors than the ones by Pioneer. Who told you this?
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer or Panasonic? Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 17:42 |
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lonerangerface wrote: I may have heard tell that Panasonic LD players are less liable to get errors than the ones by Pioneer. Can you be more specific on what you mean by "errors"? Video, audio, tracking, etc. Seems like a vague thing to say out of nowhere. In general, I've never seen a bad Panasonic player except possibly the LX-1000 and its oddball issues of not reading some discs correctly and having the door jam issue. Suffice it to say, I don't own any Panasonic players mainly because they are more rare since they came to the market much later than Pioneer. And because of this, I would not be in the market for any of the Panasonic players unless someone handed me one since I know trying to get spare parts for them would be a bigger nightmare than most Pioneer units (Pioneer also manufactured so many clones for different manufacturers to the point that we can use those players for spare parts as well).
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krbahr
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer or Panasonic? Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 23:34 |
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The Panasonic players were the other good option opposing the Pioneer players, Runco and MSB took the LX-900U and corrected the video level gain control and put out very nice upgraded LX-900U players. Other high end companies took either the Pioneer CLD-D704 or CLD-99 and performed updates. I do believe the LX-900U was the best unit, the LX-1000U had a lot more pages associated to updates so the 900 which was the last Panasonic unit I believe was the their best effort. I had a LX-900U and I did like the unit, it had a good picture but I didn't like the way the video AGC would correct up (brighten) a dark scene, Was really apparent watching the original BATMAN movie. Otherwise the picture might have been superior. But then I prefer the CLD-97 which is better than all these for my personal taste.
As for working on them the Panasonic LX-900U servo adjustments were all controlled by the remote initiating a routine in the player to adjust itself, you cannot adjust this unit using test equipment to get the desired result. Pioneer players still provide adjustable pots so I much prefer Pioneer from a maintenance side. Also the LX-900U did not provide a RF level adjustment so if the level was a little low there was nothing to do. I can still buy lasers and spindle motors for the common Pioneer units (but not all units), there are no new parts available for Panasonic units, Panasonic totally quit supporting LD format many years ago, you have to find other players for parts.
Yes, the LX-900U does give the CLD-D704 good competition, The Runco or MSB versions of the LX-900U are better.
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sonicboom
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer or Panasonic? Posted: 06 Mar 2021, 16:49 |
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krbahr wrote: Yes, the LX-900U does give the CLD-D704 good competition, The Runco or MSB versions of the LX-900U are better. Kurtis, thanks for mentioning the adjustments via remote (Section 2-3 of the Service Manual). I'm going to check that out. Personally, I really like my 900. It is from April 1995 and doesn't have the AGC issue. PQ is fantastic IMO. I would't hesitate to pick up a 900, 600 or a H670/H680 for a decent price. Parts availability aside, Panasonic made a great product that you should consider. Parts will continue to be scarce, even for Pioneer players, and ultimately will be fabricated by fanatics with 3D printers. My 704 needs the motor replaced. I did get a replacement but not sure if I could get another in the future or if so for how much. I'm even hesitating installing it for fear of messing it up. Most people would just junk the player at this point. My $40 LX-900 is still spinning....and begging me for an AC-3 upgrade.
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