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lons_vex
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Post subject: Re: MUSE Hi-Vision discs Posted: 25 Jun 2012, 08:29 |
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That was indeed "nice price." A lucky person snatched it. I bought this disc couple years ago from Japan, not exactly the best MUSE Scenery disc, but also not the worst
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Post subject: Re: MUSE Hi-Vision discs Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 22:14 |
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I found and received today this Hanabutai NTSC laserdisc, made from a Hi-Vision master. (I have sent Julien a cover pic) Shotaro Akiyama: Hanabutai (1990) [CSMW-5220]So I was looking to if there was a Muse disc made. I couldn't find one identical title, but today noticed this one at 15 min run time. So would this be the Muse disc release for the one I got? Hana-Butai [00QW-9012]
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Post subject: Re: MUSE Hi-Vision discs Posted: 25 Sep 2012, 12:27 |
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vinylcollector wrote: So would this be the Muse disc release for the one I got? That would be the HDVS release (for professional broadcast, not for commercial purpose). HDVS is an uncompressed Hi-Vision transfer. It can hold only 15min per side and requires a specific, dedicated, professional LD player. Your LD Single is a NTSC conversion of this program. Julien
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Post subject: Re: MUSE Hi-Vision discs Posted: 07 Mar 2013, 01:07 |
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Publius, if you have the Sony HIL-C2EX manual, please upload it and I will be forever grateful!
I have a player, and it recognises the disc, but doesn't spin up. You press play, it thinks for a second and then goes back to 'STOP'.
These players are *so* easy to work on and access boards than the Pioneer ones are, I'd love to get this one up and running.
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Post subject: Re: MUSE Hi-Vision discs Posted: 04 Jun 2021, 20:13 |
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kt7000 wrote: admin wrote: kt7000 wrote: Which came out first: the pioneer hld-x9 or the x0? X0 (1995), then X9 (1996). See: HLD-X0 serial numbers and HLD-X9 serial numbersJulien Last question, how much did each unit cost when first launched? I remember reading this somewhere but I can't remember where. Regarding the HLD-X0 this may help... https://www.laserdiscarchive.co.uk/lase ... hld-xo.htm
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Post subject: Re: MUSE Hi-Vision discs Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 11:41 |
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admin wrote: kt7000 wrote: Last question, how much did each unit cost when first launched? Incidentally, the SONY MUSE unit MSC-4000 was also JPY 800,000. Julien Never realised that - truly mind boggling! Presumably the Pioneer and Panasonic units could have cost even more?
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Post subject: Re: MUSE Hi-Vision discs Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 12:39 |
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That’s nothing. You also need a MUSE decoder and an HDTV which would be that much again, if not more, and of course one needs a full surround theater...this would be for a home theater $40,000-100,000 probably.
When the bubble burst it didn’t burst as violently or at the same time as it did for everyone else. The X-0 was the tail end of Pioneer’s excess but the really insane period for Japanese electronics was probably 77-90. Lots of companies had crazy stuff like this, the tape decks and the turntables usually being the most impressive.
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Post subject: Re: MUSE Hi-Vision discs Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 11:36 |
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signofzeta wrote: That’s nothing. You also need a MUSE decoder and an HDTV which would be that much again, if not more, and of course one needs a full surround theater...this would be for a home theater $40,000-100,000 probably.
When the bubble burst it didn’t burst as violently or at the same time as it did for everyone else. The X-0 was the tail end of Pioneer’s excess but the really insane period for Japanese electronics was probably 77-90. Lots of companies had crazy stuff like this, the tape decks and the turntables usually being the most impressive. An absolute bargain then zeta, can’t understand why there wasn’t a greater take up of the format back then
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Post subject: Re: MUSE Hi-Vision discs Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 15:09 |
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Slightly off track, but I remember Hiten Bomberman being one of the first high definition games. I think that needed a specific display in order to play it? To date I don't think the game was ever released as it was an exhibit of HD and 10 player (hence hi ten in the name) gaming. That would have been around the mid 1990's. Which looking back is a bit bizarre that it took so long to get to when NHK conducted the first consumer television HD broadcast in 1989 (and said network began.exploring HD recording and broadcasts after the Olympics in 1964). Wikipedia (the font of accuracy) has great page on the history of high definition telly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-defi ... televisionEdit: Hiten Bomberman was demonstrated in 1993 for the Hi Vision format at 1035i. http://www.bombermanboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=1966The link above has links to rare footage of the game in action. Well worth a look.
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Post subject: Re: MUSE Hi-Vision discs Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 15:50 |
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Yeah, HiTen was all proprietary, not sure of the architecture, only seen at Hudson’s Caravan events. The project continued and basically became Bomberman SS. In SD the 8 player is best, IMO. Weren’t there computer games in 800x600 by then? I don’t know that HiTen was the first HD anything other than it being HD Bomberman. EDIT: This is a good page for sure, lots of info. This seems to explain where Denden no Den came from as well. http://randomhoohaas.flyingomelette.com/bomb/arc-hiten/
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