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jakeheke
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Post subject: S-Video Cables Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 08:49 |
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Joined: 26 Jun 2019, 06:17 Posts: 576 Location: New Zealand Has thanked: 140 times Been thanked: 180 times
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Just relocated my LD setup and wondering if there is a better s-video cable that could squeeze out even a better picture from my R7G. Currently using a very short Tech+Link S-Video cable. I know from my D590 using some cheap composite cable to a good decent 75OHM shielded is noticeably better to me. Just curious what to look for in a S-Video cable if i could see any improvement or am i just squeezing blood out of a stone?
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laserfanhld-gb
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Post subject: Re: S-Video Cables Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 11:49 |
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jakeheke wrote: Just relocated my LD setup and wondering if there is a better s-video cable that could squeeze out even a better picture from my R7G. Currently using a very short Tech+Link S-Video cable. I know from my D590 using some cheap composite cable to a good decent 75OHM shielded is noticeably better to me. Just curious what to look for in a S-Video cable if i could see any improvement or am i just squeezing blood out of a stone? I’ve tried various s-video cables over the years and have had several higher end examples from the likes of Kimber, Chord, Ixos etc. All of these offer a slight improvement over the regular stuff in the £/€2-15 bracket when viewed on my projection setup and no doubt the same would apply for high-end oled displays of say over 50”. I’m thinking your 7G is definitely deserving the best you can afford Jake?
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teddanson
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Post subject: Re: S-Video Cables Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 13:00 |
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I took the gaffer's advice above when I got my R7G. I got a juicy one for it. I think it's made out of gold, frankenstein and myrrh. Usually I don't care for cables when it's digital stuff. For analog though I do care. I don't mind paying more for a well made cable with quality materials. I draw the line at the snake oil stuff. Cables built by virgins, airgapped by particles of uranium and sheathed in layers of minerals so rare they have to be mined from alien planets outside of our galaxy. No thanks. Make sure to pet your R7G regularly too. Let it know you appreciate it's brilliance.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: S-Video Cables Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 14:05 |
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Joined: 14 Jan 2010, 09:44 Posts: 5992 Location: Ann Arbor Has thanked: 1295 times Been thanked: 1107 times
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Quality s-video cables matter...but mostly I say this because some are so bad, not because you’ll actually see the benefits of oxygen free copper or whatever. I do recommend gold plated stuff though, just because it never corrodes. Get something that won’t fall out but also won’t destroy the port. Use the shortest cable you can and don’t route it too close to other power supplies, amps, etc.
Medium end Monster should do the trick, still available here and there online for less than $10 since almost nobody uses s-video anymore.
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: S-Video Cables Posted: 07 Jun 2021, 06:36 |
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xyscaling wrote: Interesting. I read several years back in a technical printing that the laserdisc video output was a composite video and S-video was not any better. Love to hear the other side of that conclusion. Thanks You are correct about that but there are exceptions to every rule. The application of S-Video for LD can be looked at from this perspective..... The comb filter in the TV is superior than the Y/C Separator in the LD player; you use the composite output of the player. The comb filter in the TV is inferior than the Y/C Separator in the LD player; you use the S-Video output of the player. Also, many LD players from 1993 and later (like the Pioneer CLD-D703) actually has a re-processed composite video out post Y/C separation so it may have a compromised quality to it. With this in mind, it just keeps making it more complicated deciding which is better. So, If you are not sure which device has the better video processing circuit, you try both and see which one has the more pleasing picture to you.
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jakeheke
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Post subject: Re: S-Video Cables Posted: 07 Jun 2021, 07:58 |
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teddanson wrote: Make sure to pet your R7G regularly too. Let it know you appreciate it's brilliance. Its was lucky enough to be given a good thorough clean. May give it a pat at Christmas time... Thanks for the input team
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: S-Video Cables Posted: 07 Jun 2021, 14:19 |
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xyscaling wrote: Interesting. I read several years back in a technical printing that the laserdisc video output was a composite video and S-video was not any better. Love to hear the other side of that conclusion. Thanks Do a search.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: S-Video Cables Posted: 07 Jun 2021, 17:00 |
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rein-o wrote: xyscaling wrote: Interesting. I read several years back in a technical printing that the laserdisc video output was a composite video and S-video was not any better. Love to hear the other side of that conclusion. Thanks Do a search. Don’t search. Just try it both ways yourself and ignore other people’s qualitative opinions of other peoples’ setups.
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9954tony
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Post subject: Re: S-Video Cables Posted: 08 Jun 2021, 18:30 |
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signofzeta wrote: rein-o wrote: xyscaling wrote: Interesting. I read several years back in a technical printing that the laserdisc video output was a composite video and S-video was not any better. Love to hear the other side of that conclusion. Thanks Do a search. Don’t search. Just try it both ways yourself and ignore other people’s qualitative opinions of other peoples’ setups. Because LD is composite, it has to be converted "somewhere". The key is which converter "somewhere" is better. Is the converter in your LD player better? Or is the converter in your TV better? Or your receiver? Or your composite to HDMI doodad from amazon.com ? Like signofzeta says, try it both ways. Look for stair step patterns on diagonal white lines ( i remember using the stripes on a road). Look for checkerboard pattersn in color transitions.
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jakeheke
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Post subject: Re: S-Video Cables Posted: 08 Nov 2022, 05:49 |
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Joined: 26 Jun 2019, 06:17 Posts: 576 Location: New Zealand Has thanked: 140 times Been thanked: 180 times
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Good to see you reply signofzeta. Not many products get the Jake Heke stamp of approval but these cables do, Ill assume the individual sheathing keeps the Luma and Chroma signal separate but regardless, in my New Zealand eye balls it provides a better image than much more expensive cables i have trialed. Again S-Video cables for future readers really should only be used with few LaserDisc players with special 3-D comb filters, else your TV will do a better job via composite which you should use with other players Thank you to the kind user here who generously sent them to me.
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