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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080 sometimes has issues reading side B. Posted: 05 Feb 2023, 19:34 |
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Sounds like the player made it to you intact . Congratulations in that case as what you are experiencing right now is the best case scenario. In all likeliness you probably need to replace the loading belt. You can try and clean it with alcohol first to see if that might give it more torque again but it will only be a temporary fix if it does work. In any case, the part number is PEB-1013 and are available on ebay for about $10. Just be aware that there are two belts in this player. The other belt is of a tooth designed and that one should be fine. PEB-1013 is standard toothless belt design just like the CLD-53. It should be located on the front left side and should be accessible w/ the tray retracted.
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jesuslovesgood
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080 sometimes has issues reading side B. Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 13:19 |
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ldfan wrote: I do not own a CLD-3080 so I have nothing to offer.
What you can do is open up the player, take a lot of pics of the internals including details on the loading belt area & clamping mechanism, and post it here so I can look @ them and mark up the pics to point out things to you. I took it apart tried cleaning one of the belts underneath and I put back together. Seems to be working a little better but the thing is nothing was coming off the belt at all. It already seemed like someone may have either cleaned it or replaced it. I think someone may have already replaced the belt. I'm done messing with it for now. There's apparently paper protecting the electronics in it and when I took off the top of the player that paper started coming out in pieces. It's weird but I think it was just paper to protect it even though I don't think it really needs the paper to protect it. I just think it's an extra safety precaution by Pioneer.
_________________ CLD-99, CLD-3080, CLD-53, and LX-900
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jesuslovesgood
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Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-3080 sometimes has issues reading side B. Posted: 07 Feb 2023, 01:38 |
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ldfan wrote: The older a player is, the better built they are going to be which equates to weight. That’s the way most devices go through in the product life cycle. Nothing odd about that. What about the black paper on the side of the panel that was coming off in pieces when I took off the top of the player? How important is that? I'm assuming that it's not a big deal but at same time I was irritated how easily it was coming apart.
_________________ CLD-99, CLD-3080, CLD-53, and LX-900
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: [CLD-3080] Has issues reading side B Posted: 08 Feb 2023, 06:33 |
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jesuslovesgood wrote: Can the alignment be off on side B? I just got done watching Slaughterhouse rock on laserdisc and when it went to side B it struggled to pick up the proper picture. Maybe took about 15-20 seconds to detect the picture properly and image was flipping and stuttering at parts before it finally fixed itself up. It's possible but if the player plays the rest of Side B fine w/ no video or audio distortion then it likely is okay. However, the issue could be simply the player not being used much prior to your purchase and maybe some of the moving parts are in need of some lubrication or movement to loosen it up. The distortion @ the beginning of Side B could just be the Side B Centering mechanism not locked in as tight as it could and that can still be a loading belt not clamping the disc tight enough. For now, I would use it more for awhile to see if that loosens up the player and keep it powered to AC to ensure the mechanism stays warm (these older players w/ the amount of metal in them sometimes needs this). jesuslovesgood wrote: As far as I know there's not many people who know how to properly repair these beasts when they have minor issues. Maybe it does need both belts replaced but the problem is i can't even get to the belts easily. The inside is not like the Elite CLD-53. As I have said before, "we" literally have to learn to be technicians to maintain these players now. There's no hope of seeing repair shops return and even if they did the technicians today would not be versed in technology like this. With that said, you don't need to be a pro to understand basic troubleshooting techniques. Start out slow by studying how the mechanics of the machine moves just to get an understanding. You don't have to worry about the electronic side (at least for now) since most issues on LD players start with something very simple like a rubber belt. And regarding belts, there's always a way to reach it and most of the time it is simple. If you take a pic of your player's internals, I'll do my best to point certain things out. As a quick tutorial on a CLD-D701 belt change, see this link..... ldfan @ Does it get much better than a CLD-D702?
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: [CLD-3080] Has issues reading side B Posted: 09 Feb 2023, 19:03 |
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The loading belt is located about an inch or more to the front of the toothed belt assembly you have pictured. Here is the best I can do to show you the approximate location..... You should be able to reach it from the rear if you have long fingers or tweezers but if not you may have to try from the front if the loading tray is not in the way (when the tray is open). If it is, then you have to remove the tray to reach it or possibly remove the front facade (neither is something I would try if you are uncomfortable with it). Also, I'm assuming this was not the belt you said you cleaned before so if that is the case you can try a long swab to give it a dab of alcohol to see if cleaning it will help or not.
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