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 Post subject: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 17 Feb 2012, 23:27 
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Anyone else own this one:

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LDDB.com mentions it was announced for 1999-11-02 but later cancelled and never manufactured.

Madonna: The Video Collection 1992-1999 (1999) [ID8713WO]

That is incorrect though as it really does exist as shown:

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The current 'title' shown for this cancelled laserdisc is also wrong - it says 1992 - 1999 whereas the real title was Madonna: The Video Collection 93:99.
The catalogue number on the spine (ID8713WO) matches the number in LDDB.com.

It is an unusual release as LDDB.com shows this to be a USA release, yet the cover is a thick Japanese style sleeve and it says made in Japan on the back.
In addition it has what looks like an OBI on the front although it is not. It is a sticker stuck on the actual front sleeve not the tight wrap and it is not in Japanese.
There was also no insert with this release and no Japanese writing anywhere on the sleeve suggesting it was not intended for the Japanese market
but was manufactured in Japan for the US market but may have been pulled at the last minute after a small number of copies were produced.
Certainly I've never seen or heard of another copy anywhere in the world.

In addition the disc mentions it is a Karaoke disc which would be more associated with the Hong Kong/Singapore market rather than the US market!
It genuinely is a Karaoke disc though and must surely be one of the rarest and most sought after ever produced. Firstly it features original Madonna music videos and original Madonna audio (on the analogue channels) for all the Madonna videos included. Perhaps the greatest feature though is that the text on screen which is in English is closed captioned (see little CC box icon on back cover) so can be turned off unlike other karaoke discs where it is usually ingrained in the actual image.

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I believe this to be the one of the rarest laserdiscs in my entire music collection because it is a very late music release (1999) by a massive star like Madonna, which was thought to be never manufactured, features karaoke but also features original video/audio but with closed captions so you don't have to watch the text scrolling. Just amazing!


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PostPosted: 18 Feb 2012, 03:25 
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Awesome!
So how did you manage to find/buy/get this title?
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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2012, 05:15 
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never seen this one, great to see this existing! Is this a Pioneer Japan pressing?
I was always happy to see the individual titles to be available on laserjuke rather then the terrible recent double DVD5 collection
Do you own the japanese version "ultra greatest hits" ?
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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2012, 10:46 
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Awesome!
So how did you manage to find/buy/get this title?


Hi bullruckle,

I got it from a seller from Hong Kong. I wasn't looking for it specifically because I didn't even know it existed.
It just turned up on Ebay and I knew it was one I didn't own and that it was extremely rare as I had never seen nor heard of such a disc before in my life.
I expected there was going to be lots of bidding as there were many watchers but it had a fairly high starting bid of $250 which must have put people off.
In the end no one else bid and I won it at that price.
I can only assume other folks thought it just one of those normal Karaoke discs with non original videos /audio so would be worth far less but that is not the case.
It could well be the rarest music LD ever produced as well as being one of the last official music titles released excluding promos.

It was brand new and sealed. I have opened it and both sides play perfectly. There is no insert with this title.
I sat and watched the entire content last night and the plot thickens! I've already mentioned all of the analogue audio is original Madonna
music and likewise for the videos, however some of the digital audio is not! Some of the digital audio is definitely the original Madonna music
minus vocals, other digital tracks have her vocals (which is odd given this is a Karaoke disc) and a few tracks do not appear to be the original
Madonna music during the digital audio. Go figure!!

As a Madonna collectible this is about as good as it gets.


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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2012, 10:59 
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never seen this one, great to see this existing! Is this a Pioneer Japan pressing?
I was always happy to see the individual titles to be available on laserjuke rather then the terrible recent double DVD5 collection
Do you own the japanese version "ultra greatest hits" ?


Hi edwin240170.

Yes I am really pleased this title actually does exist. I've always loved all of her music and particularly this period which I feel was her creative peak.
Like yourself I recognised the video content from various laserjuke and /or Pioneer - The Box style promo music LDs which I own.
I don't remember off the top of my head if I have all those videos on other discs but I certainly have most. It is however fantastic to get all 14 on one disc and a nice cover too!
The disc is 67 minutes long and was deliberately spread across both sides with about 33 or so mins per side.

It says Made in Japan in tiny writing (so small you would need a magnifying glass!) on the back and on the actual LD.
The labelling indicates it was a Warner Bros. Records Inc. issued by Warner Reprise Video, A Division of Warner Bros, Records Inc, A Time Warner Company.
It quotes the US Rockefeller address in New York with a date of 1999 and Boy Toy!

I don't own the Japanese ultra greatest hits. I assume that is a DVD?
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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2012, 15:48 
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This LaserDisc and DVD release were originally supposed to have the video for Erotica on them but Madonna pulled it at the last minute leaving the discs to start with the brilliant Bad Girl. At the time I heard that discs were made that had Erotica on them, but I've never seen one.
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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2012, 14:52 
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laserdisc_fan wrote:
I don't own the Japanese ultra greatest hits. I assume that is a DVD?


I was referring to the entry in LDDB: Madonna: Ultra Greatest Hits [WPLR-64], as there was no info I expected this also to be
a disc with newer clips.

However I went to search this title in LD Express and was immediate surprised as it just happened to be a re-release of the "Immaculate Collection" disc, thus the name in LDDB is wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2012, 15:07 
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Madonna clips can be found on these LaserJuke discs:

catalogue title track side
13.46.05 American Pie 7 B
18.11.02 Beautiful Stranger 5 A
13.44.07 Beautiful Stranger 1 A
11.27.01 Deeper & Deeper 2 A
11.47.07 Don´t Tell Me 10 B
17.11.03 Dont Cry For Me Argentina 1 A
14.66.10 Drowned World 6 B
13.27.11 Erotica 1 A
15.88.09 Erotica 3 A
13.41.04 Frozen 1 A
19.45.06 I'll Remember 7 B
01.01.92 Justify My Love 7 B
18.07.05 Justify My Love 9 B
13.47.10 Music 2 A
10.43.04 Nothing Really Matters 3 A
13.30.09 Rain 2 A
10.41.06 Ray Of Light 4 A
11.42.12 The Power Of Good-Bye 4 A
01.13.92 Vogue 5 A
15.35.06 Who's That Girl 1 A
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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2012, 21:51 
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Madonna tracks can also be found on:

3M Promotional Music Videos - Videobox Networks Inc: Disc 104 (1985) [---]

3M Promotional Music Videos - Videobox Networks Inc: Disc 113 (1987) [VB 113]

ET/VideoLink Hot Hits: Number 1002 (1992) [PLP-B7-12-92]

ET/VideoLink Hot Hits: Number 1026 (1994) [PLP-B31-12-94]

ET/VideoLink Hot Hits: Number 1042 (1995) [???]

Pioneer Promotional Music Videos - Jukebox Network: Disc 44 (1991) [07-459]

Pioneer Promotional Music Videos - The Box: Disc 91 (1992) [10-979]

Women in Rock (1986) [SM035-3386]
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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2012, 22:32 
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Also "Oh, Father" is on the Warner Reprise 8 inch LD Single "picture disc" promotional disc distributed by Stereo Review magazine.
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/33175/PRO-V-5023/Warner-Reprise-Video-Laser-Disc-Sampler-(1990)
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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
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Bringing this thread up again. Been curious about one thing. Are you sure its an USA release, does it say on the back ? Since the lddb listing is listing it with both USA and a price tag.

Its not an HK release ? Thats what Im wondering...
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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
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I believe it is a Hong Kong release but the disc was manufactured in Japan for the Hong Kong Karaoke market.
It says Made in Japan on the back and on the actual LD.
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Geez that would be an epic score .....
A few drinks and then "K" time !

Seems like so long ago for this release, but really just a flash in the pan ......

Thanks for revisiting this thread .......
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laserdisc_fan wrote:
I believe it is a Hong Kong release but the disc was manufactured in Japan for the Hong Kong Karaoke market.
It says Made in Japan on the back and on the actual LD.


If this is a HK release, it is not an Image release, is there the typical Image start sequence?
Would it be possible to get a picture of the disc label also to see who manufactured the disc?
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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2016, 18:03 
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So could it be that the USA release in fact was canceled, and this is in fact a not listed HK title ?
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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 27 Feb 2016, 16:41 
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If this is a HK release, it is not an Image release, is there the typical Image start sequence?
Would it be possible to get a picture of the disc label also to see who manufactured the disc?


No Image start sequence. Just the usual Warner Reprise Video animated stick man you get on Warner music LDs.

See below for pics of discs labels:
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Spine on sleeve also has catalogue number which matches original entry in database:
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PostPosted: 27 Feb 2016, 16:54 
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So could it be that the USA release in fact was canceled, and this is in fact a not listed HK title ?


There is a post on the internet that details it was intended to be a late USA release along with a number of other titles. For whatever reason that clearly didn't happen but its interesting this Karaoke version did surface with the exact same catalogue number as first published for the USA release. The thick cover has the hallmarks of a made in Japan release and this is confirmed on the sleeve which actually says Made in Japan. There is however no insert and no OBI and it is packaged in a tight shrink. Can't imagine this would ever have been destined for the USA market if it featured Karaoke music. Of course its greatest strength is the bonus of featuring the original music as well as using close captions instead of embedding the lyrics in the video which more conventional Karaoke discs tend to do.
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PostPosted: 27 Feb 2016, 18:31 
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Hello
I know that is an ultra rare title that i personally has seen only once on ebay (watching auctions for the last 18 years) and the winner of that auction was laserdisc fan.here on lddb this is on three collections .i have some common titles that are not on three collections so its pretty strange.my guess is that some members are adding to theyre collection what they wish they had.
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PostPosted: 27 Feb 2016, 19:08 
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I know that is an ultra rare title that i personally has seen only once on ebay (watching auctions for the last 18 years) and the winner of that auction was laserdisc fan.here on lddb this is on three collections .i have some common titles that are not on three collections so its pretty strange.my guess is that some members are adding to theyre collection what they wish they had.



Very valid point and probably true. I don't understand the long conversation in this thread. Why does it matter if it's a US released or HK. You will never find another copy of this title even if you were willing to pay a $1000 for it. I am pretty certain LD fan will never sell his copy. So?

I read/enjoyed this thread the first time it was posted a couple years ago. It was a nice opportunity to see the nice cover arts. After a lot of drooling, I realized I could never find another copy and moved on. I am happy my friend Laserdisc Fan has this copy because if anyone deserves this copy, that is him. Its very nice of him posting pictures of it. Just admire and move on people.
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 Post subject: Re: Madonna cancelled laserdisc really DOES exist
PostPosted: 27 Feb 2016, 19:22 
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I know that laserdisc fan wont sell his copy for all the money in the world and i respect that.but i doubt that there is any other in this forum that has this title.in any case if anyone else has this i letting him know that i can give 3000 dollars instanly for it
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