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retro_games
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Post subject: Re: Sony HIL-C2EX Muse NTSC Player - Are there parts availab Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 23:09 |
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forper wrote: One day I will own a C2EX or C1.
Good luck with your parts search. Beautiful players, however underated by some, i don't know why.
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Post subject: Re: Sony HIL-C2EX Muse NTSC Player - Are there parts availab Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 04:45 |
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forper wrote: A lot of people here have an irrational hatred of anything Sony, it perpetuates and more and more people assume all Sony products are garbage without any actual personal experience. It's pretty sad.
Although I've never seen any Hi Vision player in action (Sony or Pioneer) the chassis on the C1 and C2EX are gorgeous and I've had better experiences with standard Sony players than Pioneer ones so a C1 or C2EX is my holy grail. While I've never had any Sony LD players I have had Sony CD players, Walkman's, boomboxes and other Sony products that have only lasted 4 years or less. All have been garbage and have not lasted nearly as long as the Pioneer, Carver, Panasonic, Sansui, Garrard and numerous other brands of which I can't even remember that I have sold to upgrade over the years.
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Post subject: Re: Sony HIL-C2EX Muse NTSC Player - Are there parts availab Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 09:46 |
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forper wrote: Although I've never seen any Hi Vision player in action (Sony or Pioneer) Then I would recommend you do before formulating an informed opinion. Julien
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retro_games
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Post subject: Re: Sony HIL-C2EX Muse NTSC Player - Are there parts availab Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 17:28 |
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krbahr wrote: The non-MUSE Sony players had higher grain in the picture than Pioneer players and had issues that would break with each player, then Sony stopped supporting them long ago. I've only seen 1 Sony MUSE player the C2 so I cannot rate them. All I can say is Pioneer still has some parts and more players in the marketplace to get parts from. Sony and Panasonic just totally dropped out and dumped their parts somewhere many years ago. In my opinion the Sony has a brighter and more colorful picture (according to my actual experience). With more brightness and detail comes "grain" and that is pure logical, we cannot do anything, so here it's a matter of taste. In some discs is very critical to watch in a Pioneer (i mean a regular one) as the picture suffers from "smoothness", while in the Sony's they tend to look better, i don't mind very much the "grain". Now, concerning to the parts, it's difficult to get indeed, and that is the reason of this thread, to know if anyone has access to them.
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Post subject: Re: Sony HIL-C2EX Muse NTSC Player - Are there parts availab Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 17:59 |
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Retro_games, check this link: http://www.lasertrader.deOptical laser pickup KHS-160A for Sony HIL-C2E & HIL-C2EX is in stock there, I suppose. It has a green light for being in stock (if currently updated) and available for delivery!
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Post subject: Re: Sony HIL-C2EX Muse NTSC Player - Are there parts availab Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 18:12 |
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laserpaal wrote: Retro_games, check this link: http://www.lasertrader.deOptical laser pickup KHS-160A for Sony HIL-C2E & HIL-C2EX is in stock there, I suppose. It has a green light for being in stock (if currently updated) and available for delivery! Tank you so much
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Post subject: Re: Sony HIL-C2EX Muse NTSC Player - Are there parts availab Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 00:41 |
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rein-o wrote: forper wrote: A lot of people here have an irrational hatred of anything Sony, it perpetuates and more and more people assume all Sony products are garbage without any actual personal experience. It's pretty sad.
Although I've never seen any Hi Vision player in action (Sony or Pioneer) the chassis on the C1 and C2EX are gorgeous and I've had better experiences with standard Sony players than Pioneer ones so a C1 or C2EX is my holy grail. While I've never had any Sony LD players I have had Sony CD players, Walkman's, boomboxes and other Sony products that have only lasted 4 years or less. All have been garbage and have not lasted nearly as long as the Pioneer, Carver, Panasonic, Sansui, Garrard and numerous other brands of which I can't even remember that I have sold to upgrade over the years. You've obviously never owned Sony ES gear. I feel a little sorry for you and your bias. Oh well I'll just keep enjoying my 20 year old ES amp taking my signal from my QS MD deck (JB980) and feeding it to my hand made in England Sony speakers. Total cost: a lot less than you spent on your esoteric "audiophile" gear. Sound is so sweet here in objective open minded land...
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Post subject: Re: Sony HIL-C2EX Muse NTSC Player - Are there parts availab Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 00:54 |
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admin wrote: forper wrote: Although I've never seen any Hi Vision player in action (Sony or Pioneer) Then I would recommend you do before formulating an informed opinion. Julien Maybe I should go to Audioboyz house? Hahaa
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Post subject: Re: Sony HIL-C2EX Muse NTSC Player - Are there parts availab Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 00:59 |
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retro_games wrote: krbahr wrote: The non-MUSE Sony players had higher grain in the picture than Pioneer players and had issues that would break with each player, then Sony stopped supporting them long ago. I've only seen 1 Sony MUSE player the C2 so I cannot rate them. All I can say is Pioneer still has some parts and more players in the marketplace to get parts from. Sony and Panasonic just totally dropped out and dumped their parts somewhere many years ago. In my opinion the Sony has a brighter and more colorful picture (according to my actual experience). With more brightness and detail comes "grain" and that is pure logical, we cannot do anything, so here it's a matter of taste. In some discs is very critical to watch in a Pioneer (i mean a regular one) as the picture suffers from "smoothness", while in the Sony's they tend to look better, i don't mind very much the "grain". This is what it's all about, personal taste. The reason I like Sony normal players is they are overall more reliable than Pioneer, I actually prefer Pioneers "smoothed" picture as most here do. I never thought about the roughness of Sony video to mean it's more pure and honest. I like that thinking, I might take another look at Sony's picture with a different perspective now. Sound however, Sony players win hands down. 5 out of 5 Pioneers I've owned have had the digital sound badly deteriorate after a few months. Never happened with my 5 Sonys, sound was already superior to the Pios when they worked, and never deteriorated. I just hate Sony tray mechs, prone to jamming.
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