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tasuke
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Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 16:52 |
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chaniyth wrote: Really excellent thread tasuke, thank you for taking the time to showcase all of these CLD-3030 chassis-based Laserdisc players. thank you, i'm kind of obsessed with the model series, actually. the 3030, specifically, was the first LDP i ever saw, -almost 20 years back- that was, cosmetically, Love at First Sight. there are, of course far superior models out there to be had, but damn if the 3030/99S series' cosmetics don't fairly scream "Late-1980's Home Video Revolution" an all-too-short-lived cosmetic design ethos that speaks directly to my soul... ((the top model's A/V performance really ain't half-shabby at all, either, TBH.))
_________________ * PIONEER CLD-3030 Compatible LDP (1988) (( http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3094 ))
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players Posted: 29 Aug 2017, 19:34 |
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laserpaal wrote: The only thing I have stumbled upon by now is that the chapter search sometimes uses longer time, but nothing major. While I have never owned a 3030 if its anything like the 3070 then it will take a little time to chapter search. Its an older player and not as fast lets say as a newer later made player. Unless its taking a really long time.
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laserpaal
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Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players Posted: 29 Aug 2017, 20:54 |
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rein-o wrote: laserpaal wrote: The only thing I have stumbled upon by now is that the chapter search sometimes uses longer time, but nothing major. While I have never owned a 3030 if its anything like the 3070 then it will take a little time to chapter search. Its an older player and not as fast lets say as a newer later made player. Unless its taking a really long time. It felt like it was struggling to lock on to specific chapters midways and did "hang" a while before I could go to a previous chapter. Later on those specific chapters were easy for the laser to locate when there had been movement all along the guide rail from start to end. From what I know it could have been the results of a player that has been sitting in storage for years without use.
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tasuke
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Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 17:14 |
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it pretty much is. it's beneficial to give the player a good fresh relube. pop the top, expel the disc tray, and you'll have direct access to the laser sled transverse assy. you can use WHITE LITHIUM GREASE and a light general purpose oil, though if you have affordable access to it, a Silicon-based grease is considered best. the brass worm-drive shaft, and the guide shafts are the primary things to lubricate. GREASE for the WORM, OIL for the GUIDES; this alone should correct most, if not all playback faults. it would be best to remove the disc tray entirely, to grease the gearwork underneath, but that is not essential, and the timing gear for the tray drive shaft must be aligned properly with the tray's teeth track to be properly reassembled...
_________________ * PIONEER CLD-3030 Compatible LDP (1988) (( http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3094 ))
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tasuke
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Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 17:58 |
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laserpaal wrote: What are your noise level opinions about Pioneer vs. other brands? Are Pioneer in general more noisier than others? don't know. my experience in LDPs is strictly limited to PIONEER models. sorry... Quote: the legendary "Ah! My Goddess" Manga; Chapter 2, page 43 of the recent OMNIBUS edition, Vol.1; a CLD-99S in this guy's A/V shelf; (SONY SUPER BETA SL-HF1000 directly underneath)
_________________ * PIONEER CLD-3030 Compatible LDP (1988) (( http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3094 ))
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players Posted: 09 Nov 2019, 03:26 |
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blam1 wrote: I have always thought the picture on both the 3030 and LD-W1 was better if you turn off the digital memory. That is correct. The field memory on these two players appear to reduce resolution if left on during “normal” playback. It’s always best to turn it off right away after you initially turn on the player. I think Pioneer realized this was a bad thing so in the subsequent models they kept it shut off afterwards but went on as needed for CLV special effects playback.
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tasuke
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Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players Posted: 09 Nov 2019, 15:57 |
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blam1 wrote: I have always thought the picture on both the 3030 and LD-W1 was better if you turn off the digital memory.
The weakest design point that I've come across is the tray drive gear. It's a pole that runs the full width of the try and has gears at each end. The gears are extremely brittle and crack, which causes the drawer to make thumping sounds. I'm on a constant lookout for players that are being parted out just to recover these gear assemblies. i completely dismantled and greased everything on my own 3030 years ago, and it has been nothing short of a reliable champ to this day...
_________________ * PIONEER CLD-3030 Compatible LDP (1988) (( http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3094 ))
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 16:52 |
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laserpaal wrote: The only thing I have stumbled upon by now is that the chapter search sometimes uses longer time, but nothing major.. Although I know this was an older post, thought I’d mention something about it. I’ve had my 3030 from day one and it has always occasionally had issues searching chapters or even simply identifying an LD. I think I was told from years ago that it was related to Image Entertainment pressings when they were trying some new encoding scheme but I could be wrong.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 17:17 |
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ldfan wrote: laserpaal wrote: The only thing I have stumbled upon by now is that the chapter search sometimes uses longer time, but nothing major.. Although I know this was an older post, thought I’d mention something about it. I’ve had my 3030 from day one and it has always occasional had issues searching chapters or even simply identifying an LD. I think I was told from years ago that it was related to Image Entertainment pressings when they were trying some new enclosing scheme But I could be wrong. Do you mean when it sometimes would have a clucking grinding sound and then hit the chapter a little longer than other discs? I've had that on my 3070 since new also, I think its just about the technology at the time. Never heard of the image discs before, can't remember now which discs would have done it but we did have a lot of image discs when starting the collection.
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players Posted: 30 Nov 2019, 03:23 |
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rein-o wrote: Do you mean when it sometimes would have a clucking grinding sound and then hit the chapter a little longer than other discs? I've had that on my 3070 since new also, I think its just about the technology at the time.
No grinding noise. It’s just the disc constantly speeding up and slowing down and I think it’s the player trying to find the TOC (table of contents). And come to think of it, I think that was the issue that only discs with a TOC gave me issues. rein-o wrote: Never heard of the image discs before, can't remember now which discs would have done it but we did have a lot of image discs when starting the collection. I could still be wrong about the Image discs being an issue. I could be mixing it up with issues related to the 90 series players and this issue with the 3030 could be something totally different.
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