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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 01:50 |
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kt7000 wrote: Nemesis (1992) PILF-1588 - this is the directors cut version with 4 minutes of extended and alternate scenes plus an alternate ending. Substance posted that he bought the new bluray with 3 versions of the film and I believe this is one of them.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd Posted: 26 Jan 2019, 05:15 |
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xtempo wrote: I assume that was released on VHS as well? I think I owned that one and only seen it that way. I did some more reading and apparently this was done for ABC television at first and then released on home video. I guess the additional elements look pretty rough (As rough as extended The Abyss? Or even rougher, I wonder.) which is probably fine for broadcast or early LD but if higher quality elements aren't easily available then a DVD or BR would be better off without them. You don't want a Metropolis* thing going on when the additions probably don't mean anything anyway. They probably only did it to add more advertising. The movie isn't exactly a brisk walk even without the extra 12 min. There must be a Star Trek maniac here who already has this info at their fingertips. I'm barely more than a punter in the scheme of Trek fandom. I only have the box set version of this. * constantly changing quality
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd Posted: 26 Jan 2019, 16:41 |
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signofzeta wrote: Man, 1983. That’s pretty early. I guess I’ve never seen that version before. Maybe the extra footage will transform it from something that is simply boring into something amazing and boring. If I remember correctly, it just has a bunch of deleted scenes cut back into the movie, one of which includes the famous (or rather, infamous) Kirk spacewalk sequence with unfinished effects - which are conveniently hidden by the pan&scan treatment. Unlike the Director's Edition which is actually properly edited.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd Posted: 26 Jan 2019, 17:02 |
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takeshi666 wrote: signofzeta wrote: Man, 1983. That’s pretty early. I guess I’ve never seen that version before. Maybe the extra footage will transform it from something that is simply boring into something amazing and boring. If I remember correctly, it just has a bunch of deleted scenes cut back into the movie, one of which includes the famous (or rather, infamous) Kirk spacewalk sequence with unfinished effects - which are conveniently hidden by the pan&scan treatment. Unlike the Director's Edition which is actually properly edited. Thats the scene I remember most when on TV, Kirk getting Spock and taking to him that was all cut from the theater and DC version. On another note, from what I've read the only way to get the DC is the standard DVD as the extra effects were done in standard def and they can't upgrade them? Sounds odd but I guess they know best.
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd Posted: 26 Jan 2019, 19:20 |
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rein-o wrote: takeshi666 wrote: signofzeta wrote: Man, 1983. That’s pretty early. I guess I’ve never seen that version before. Maybe the extra footage will transform it from something that is simply boring into something amazing and boring. If I remember correctly, it just has a bunch of deleted scenes cut back into the movie, one of which includes the famous (or rather, infamous) Kirk spacewalk sequence with unfinished effects - which are conveniently hidden by the pan&scan treatment. Unlike the Director's Edition which is actually properly edited. Thats the scene I remember most when on TV, Kirk getting Spock and taking to him that was all cut from the theater and DC version. On another note, from what I've read the only way to get the DC is the standard DVD as the extra effects were done in standard def and they can't upgrade them? Sounds odd but I guess they know best. Yeah, Paramount got stingy and only budgeted the effects crew to do the new CGI effects in SD. Not only that but apparently they don't even have the original files anymore so if they wanted to update the DE to HD, they'd have to do the new effects from scratch.
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Post subject: Re: Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserd Posted: 26 Jan 2019, 20:38 |
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takeshi666 wrote: rein-o wrote: takeshi666 wrote: If I remember correctly, it just has a bunch of deleted scenes cut back into the movie, one of which includes the famous (or rather, infamous) Kirk spacewalk sequence with unfinished effects - which are conveniently hidden by the pan&scan treatment.
Unlike the Director's Edition which is actually properly edited. Thats the scene I remember most when on TV, Kirk getting Spock and taking to him that was all cut from the theater and DC version. On another note, from what I've read the only way to get the DC is the standard DVD as the extra effects were done in standard def and they can't upgrade them? Sounds odd but I guess they know best. Yeah, Paramount got stingy and only budgeted the effects crew to do the new CGI effects in SD. Not only that but apparently they don't even have the original files anymore so if they wanted to update the DE to HD, they'd have to do the new effects from scratch. Correct - the Director's Cut was completed in SD Video. They "could" recreate the Directors Cut in HD, but they would have to start over. This is the same reason why DS9 and VOY haven't been issued on BD. While both were shot on film, all of the effects were done in SD. What they did for TNG was so costly, they are hard pressed to recoup their investment in giving DS9 and VOY the same treatment.
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