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Post subject: Re: Hybrid open-matte Posted: 06 Mar 2019, 10:56 |
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mimylovesjapan wrote: Would it be possible to add a "Hybrid open-matte" category for movies with opened top-bottom, but cutted left-right, compared to wide screen version. It's the 3rd movie I watch this year with this size, and it is quite interesting size : You can see more than a normal pan/scan movie, and with better quality than a zoomed letterbox. Would that be a Super 35 or related? https://www.lddb.com/help_ratio.php#othersI could be VERY accurate on the ratio descriptions ... but already P&S vs Open Matte is confusing a LOT of the users here. Maybe some extra notes for these specific titles could be enough? Julien
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid open-matte Posted: 06 Mar 2019, 15:19 |
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takeshi666 wrote: I think a new category would be appropriate. It is a legitimate industry practice after all, just like academy ratio. Then... we'd need a "Super 35 Matted Widescreen" and a "Super 35 Matted Full Screen"? Julien
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid open-matte Posted: 06 Mar 2019, 20:06 |
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admin wrote: takeshi666 wrote: I think a new category would be appropriate. It is a legitimate industry practice after all, just like academy ratio. Then... we'd need a "Super 35 Matted Widescreen" and a "Super 35 Matted Full Screen"? I hadn't even thought of that. How many people besides James Cameron utilized Super 35 anyway? I have a vague recollection that the aerial footage - that is, the footage shot by a camera mounted on a jet fighter - in Top Gun were shot this way, but the rest of the movie was shot in standard scope.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid open-matte Posted: 07 Mar 2019, 11:16 |
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mimylovesjapan wrote: - letterbox (cropped) The proper industry term is "matted". I think it'd be better to simply used established terminology to avoid confusion. Squeeze discs already have their own special label anyway. Also how can open matte be cropped when it's already uncropped by definition? Maybe we should just leave Super 35 titles the way they are, "widescreen" and "fullscreen", since neither specifies which way they're matted or unmatted, and anybody interested in any particular movie can just look at the technical specs on the IMDB page to see what it means.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid open-matte Posted: 07 Mar 2019, 14:02 |
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takeshi666 wrote: I think it'd be better to simply used established terminology to avoid confusion.
that's true. takeshi666 wrote: Squeeze discs already have their own special label anyway. They have a SQZ logo, but the size category (Widescreen 16/9) is not true, as it is not widescreen but squeezed widescreen. But I don't mind so much ^^ takeshi666 wrote: Also how can open matte be cropped when it's already uncropped by definition? Yes, you're right. But letting these movies inside the Pan/scan category would be a big loss, as there are not showing less picture than a matted widescreen LD. The risk with that is to forget lot of movie versions with lot of potential, just because they are pan/scan catagorized. takeshi666 wrote: Maybe we should just leave Super 35 titles the way they are, "widescreen" and "fullscreen", since neither specifies which way they're matted or unmatted, and anybody interested in any particular movie can just look at the technical specs on the IMDB page to see what it means. It is not only about Super 35 titles (lot of 1.66:1 movies are matted in 1.78:1). And also,"fullscreen" category don't exist now : the actual "pan/scan" terminology is disciminating those editions. When I started LD collection I was also focusing on letterbox only, which is not always the best choice, if you have a good "fullscreen matted" movie.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid open-matte Posted: 07 Mar 2019, 15:52 |
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gypsy wrote: So what is squeeze LD exactly? That always kinda confused me. The film will be squeezed on the sides so when you play it on a 16:9 set it will spread it out and fill the screen. If you have your TV setting on full I think then it will look right, if you watch it on a 4:3 set it will look squished a little. But the way TVs are now and when I go to the gym I don't think anybody would care if it looked off as they can't figure how to adjust the TVs now
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid open-matte Posted: 08 Mar 2019, 04:48 |
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rein-o wrote: gypsy wrote: So what is squeeze LD exactly? That always kinda confused me. The film will be squeezed on the sides so when you play it on a 16:9 set it will spread it out and fill the screen. If you have your TV setting on full I think then it will look right, if you watch it on a 4:3 set it will look squished a little. But the way TVs are now and when I go to the gym I don't think anybody would care if it looked off as they can't figure how to adjust the TVs now So would it be like the Enhanced 16x9 thing on DVDs?
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid open-matte Posted: 08 Mar 2019, 11:57 |
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admin wrote: gypsy wrote: Looks like the Wikipedia entry needs a Laserdisc section Added!Julien
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