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alexpigment
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Post subject: [CLD-D604] Laser/pickup body stuck; gears don't spin Posted: 24 Mar 2019, 06:42 |
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Joined: 24 Mar 2019, 06:31 Posts: 53 Location: United States Has thanked: 1 time Been thanked: 0 time
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Hey guys, I just got my first LD player via eBay, and unfortunately I took a gamble on a player that wasn't fully tested. When I got it, the tray would not open at all, and it would make a loud noise before giving an "E3" error. I got the tray opening fixed but now I'm left with the following problem:
When the laser assembly tries to move, the gear on top spins but it doesn't seem to spin the two gears below it that move it on the track. One direction kinda works (moving toward the front of the unit), but the other direction doesn't. I lubricated everything with white lithium grease (tell me if that is a big no-no), but that didn't seem to help. I notice that the top of the two gears in the m holder has a lot of play and I believe this is the problem (it gets in a position where it doesn't fully contact the bottom gear).
I read a lot just now on broken m holders, but I don't really see anything broken on it. I'm wondering if this is a common problem with the gears and if there's something I should know about assembly so that the gears don't move around under the M holder. Also let me know if you think the type of grease I used could be the problem. Seems unlikely, but I am new to this. Thanks in advance.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: [CLD-D604] Laser/pickup body stuck; gears don't spin Posted: 24 Mar 2019, 14:20 |
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Joined: 03 May 2004, 19:05 Posts: 8106 Location: Dullaware Has thanked: 1219 times Been thanked: 844 times
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Grease is fine, no problems unless you got it on a belt and its slipping, I've done that once, only once I'm no tech but the M holder is an issue on some players depending on color and if its broken. I don't know how to tell if its broken but I guess you would just take it out and examine it. Also could it be that gears are not in the correct order and that's why you are getting the error?? that they are binding somewhere?
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: [CLD-D604] Laser/pickup body stuck; gears don't spin Posted: 24 Mar 2019, 21:11 |
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Joined: 28 Jun 2014, 05:59 Posts: 1459 Location: San Francisco, CA USA Has thanked: 425 times Been thanked: 533 times
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signofzeta wrote: This may have happened as you were powering it up for the first time in who knows how long. If there is too much load on the trolley because of grease or it just being stuck from not moving for 15 years it will break that part HOWEVER it has to be said that part breaks eventually anyway for some reason so don’t feel too bad about it.
I guess I finally have my answer on why the M-Holder goes bad and it's unfortunate to know that it could go bad for no particular reason. Fortunately, my CLD-59 is still working fine considering that it was stored for the past seven years or so (maybe because it was boxed and in a cool environment that might have played a part in it but who knows).
Last edited by ldfan on 26 Mar 2019, 08:00, edited 1 time in total.
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miskia
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Post subject: Re: [CLD-D604] Laser/pickup body stuck; gears don't spin Posted: 25 Mar 2019, 09:07 |
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Joined: 29 Dec 2018, 10:33 Posts: 35 Location: Belgium Has thanked: 1 time Been thanked: 10 times
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I'm working on a good reproduction of the M-holder, as discussed here: Let's resurrect the VNL1779 / VNL1700I received the first prototype (printed in MultiJet Fusion from HP) which seems to be very solid There is only 2-3 little things to correct and I'll order a new prototype, which should be a final version. From there I will be able to order more stucks if some guys need it.
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alexpigment
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Post subject: Re: [CLD-D604] Laser/pickup body stuck; gears don't spin Posted: 26 Mar 2019, 05:38 |
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Joined: 24 Mar 2019, 06:31 Posts: 53 Location: United States Has thanked: 1 time Been thanked: 0 time
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miskia wrote: I'm working on a good reproduction of the M-holder, as discussed here: Let's resurrect the VNL1779 / VNL1700I received the first prototype (printed in MultiJet Fusion from HP) which seems to be very solid There is only 2-3 little things to correct and I'll order a new prototype, which should be a final version. From there I will be able to order more stucks if some guys need it. Thank you for chiming in. I'm waiting patiently and am interested in getting one (or more) from you if you decide to make a bunch of them.
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