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Post subject: Is it possible to make a NTSC LD Player Region Free? Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 13:53 |
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Like the title suggests, is it possible to make an NTSC LD player region free?
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Post subject: Re: Is it possible to make a NTSC LD Player Region Free? Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 14:42 |
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There are no "regions" on LD. Maybe you want to make an LD-DVD combination player "region free" on the DVD side? Any NTSC LD player can play any NTSC LD. Doesn't matter where it was released, or when. Now, if what you're really asking is, is it possible to modify an NTSC LD player to also play back PAL LDs, the answer is "probably not". Some NTSC players will play back PAL LDs at 30 fps with no sound, but the sync, color, sound carrier, & other characteristics are different enough that if you want a dual-standard player you should just buy one.
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Post subject: Re: Is it possible to make a NTSC LD Player Region Free? Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 15:32 |
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Yes I wanted to be able to playback PAL LDs on a NTSC LD player (no DVD).
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Post subject: Re: Is it possible to make a NTSC LD Player Region Free? Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 15:34 |
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Best european PAL/NTSC players to look for would be the Pioneer CLD D925 or if you are looking for a combination of Laserdisc and DVD you could look for the Pioneer DVL 919E. Both of these players are showing on eBay UK at the moment. Laserdisc seems to be on an increase so watch the prices as they are creeping up for the players. Maybe look for a boxed version as this will help protect when shipping. Quiz international posting also if you are outside of the UK as this to could be quite high. The Pioneer CLD D925 was the top of the range for laserdisc and cd playback. The DVL919E was the player for DVD and laserdisc with DTS output for both formats. These players are also 220v-240v so a step up covertor would more than likely be required if used outside of europe. Cheers Paul
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Post subject: Re: Is it possible to make a NTSC LD Player Region Free? Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 15:42 |
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Well I don't want to go the extent of buying another player. I just see some PAL LD's that sometimes seem better than the NTSC counterparts, like they are letterboxed and ours aren't.
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Post subject: Re: Is it possible to make a NTSC LD Player Region Free? Posted: 17 Mar 2012, 05:10 |
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In my opinion the best PAL/NTSC player is the Philips LDP600. It is built like an industrial player from Pioneer and has never let me down and I have had it for almost 20 years now. I have had 2 CLD925 and 2 DVL919E and they are just not build like the Philips. I now use the Philips for PAL discs and an industrial player from Pioneer for NTSC. The industrial players will last several lifetimes lol. I bought 42 players for 60 EUR a few years back from the Dutch military. I dont need to worry about playing my NTSC collection The Philips is my last working PAL player...
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Post subject: Re: Is it possible to make a NTSC LD Player Region Free? Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 08:59 |
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belturner wrote: Back to the subject, I believe it was possible to make the PAL only Pioneer CLD 1500 play NTSC discs when modified. I remember a shop in Belgium which modified Nintendo game consoles to play NTSC games was able to do the modification... When it comes to cartridge consoles it was usually a hardware problem that stopped you playing games from other regions; ie the cartridges would be a different shape. Some later SNES games contained a lockout chip that would check the voltage to determine the region. Both were easily bypassable but neither of the fixes really apply to laserdisc.
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Post subject: Re: Is it possible to make a NTSC LD Player Region Free? Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 18:23 |
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Actually my player (currently on the blink) actually does output PAL, but at 525 lines and 60 Hz. Those old TV sets wouldn't have been able to decode NTSC-4.43. I think I have at least one set which tries to decode NTSC as SECAM.
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Post subject: Re: Is it possible to make a NTSC LD Player Region Free? Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 20:49 |
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Well my TV-set actually has a far superiour PAL-decoder than my AV-receiver. It's worth to check, it's amazing how well modern decoders work.
At least my Pioneer CLD-D515 goes an extra mile to support both PAL and NTSC. There are quite some differences like different frequencies of the sound carriers.
As for slowing down PAL DVDs, that's fairly simple to do. Just get a cheap DVD-Player and replace the crystal. It'll usually only have one, getting sync to the whole system on a chip. Of course you'll have to use the RGB or Component outputs then.
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Post subject: Re: Is it possible to make a NTSC LD Player Region Free? Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 21:37 |
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casandro wrote: Well my TV-set actually has a far superiour PAL-decoder than my AV-receiver. It's worth to check, it's amazing how well modern decoders work.
At least my Pioneer CLD-D515 goes an extra mile to support both PAL and NTSC. There are quite some differences like different frequencies of the sound carriers.
As for slowing down PAL DVDs, that's fairly simple to do. Just get a cheap DVD-Player and replace the crystal. It'll usually only have one, getting sync to the whole system on a chip. Of course you'll have to use the RGB or Component outputs then. The pitch of the audio wouldn't change though, would it? That's what drives me crazy about 625-line, 50Hz (I wrote 625-line, 50 Hz since DVD's are not technically PAL or NTSC) is the pitch change from the 4% speed increase to 25 Fps. When HD-DVD's were being made I loved buying the U.K. releases of The Fog and the '76 King Kong because they were not speeded up - If I'm remembering right, I don't think the HD-DVD format even had a 50Hz mode for film. And luckily, those HD-DVD's haven't rotted - only my HD's made by Technicolor have rotted, or in the case of Rumor Has It, completely came apart into two seperate pieces. My Sanyo PLV-Z3 720P projector had a good PAL decoder, as does my Sanyo PLV-Z1 projector which is quarter HD @ 540P, but I'm using a Toshiba LCD display now and amazingly, it doesn't support any PAL or SECAM decoding or any 50 Hz HD mode. Both my Sanyo projectors support 1035i, which is the old analog HD/Hi-Vision standard as well as 720, 1080, 625 and 525 line in 50 and 60Hz. The PAL market was so badly served by Pioneer and Philips with their LaserDisc players... Especially players like the Pioneer one that didn't do FX even for CAV Standard Play discs. And the LaserDisc format itself really didn't have the bandwidth to hold the PAL signal and audio without interference between the two. I never understood the "HQ" switch some PAL Pioneer players had that rolled off the frequency response.
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