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 Post subject: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2014, 04:14 
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Since I got the SACD/DVD-Audio player up and running, I started browsing for some SACD titles. Since SACD and DVD-Audio were warring formats, I figured there wouldn't be any exact same titles that were on both formats . . . that is, until I found this:

Fleetwood Mac: "Rumours" SACD
Fleetwood Mac: "Rumours" DVD-Audio

So does anyone else know of any other titles on both formats?
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PostPosted: 18 Feb 2014, 05:31 
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There must have been a few of these. Another example:

The Who - Tommy DVD-A
The Who - Tommy SACD

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 Post subject: Re: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2014, 10:57 
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I think the Fleetwood Mac SACD is fairly recent and uses a slightly different mix. I've heard plenty of people argue about which is better.
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 Post subject: Re: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2014, 18:36 
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I usually listen to the hi-res stereo more than the surround mixes. I'd rather have super quality stereo than some mocked up surround sound!
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PostPosted: 20 Feb 2014, 19:51 
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I agree some stereo mix are better than multich but I love the .LFE on multich discs.
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 Post subject: Re: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2014, 11:01 
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When a surround mix is done well it can sound amazing, but quite often it's obviously a rushed job.
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 Post subject: Re: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
PostPosted: 20 Mar 2014, 17:10 
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Another,

Gaucho - SACD
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 Post subject: Re: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
PostPosted: 10 Jul 2015, 18:49 
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Björk: Medulla and Vespertine

(Where some people experience simultaneous playback of two stereo sacd tracks of one of the 2 sacd's :lol: ).

I only have the Vespertine sacd and Medulla DVDA, so can't compare 1 to 1, although the Medulla DVDA feels like a more natural sound to me than the Vespertine Sacd.
Medulla is nice as it also outputs 24/96 stereo via the optical output. Most DVDA's are restricted to only output 16/48 over optical/coax or not output at all over optical/coax on dvd-a capable players.
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 Post subject: Re: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2015, 21:56 
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I don't know exactly how many titles off-hand there are, but I know that the Japanese division of WEA/Rhino reissued several albums which had been released as DVD-Audio discs as hybrid SACDs. I have two of them: Chicago V and Yes - Fragile.
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PostPosted: 27 Oct 2015, 20:10 
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A lot of SACD's were also released as DVD-Audio and vise-versa...mostly after DVD-Audio became a total flop. Most of those are sourced from the same digital masters they used for DVD-Audio..so often they're created from 24/96 or 24/192 content. I have a couple of SHM-SACDs that even say they were sourced from 24/96 PCM content.

I almost forgot..HOTEL CALIFORNIA! I was lucky enough to acquire a DVD-Audio disc of this back in 2003 when it came out (it's since been destroyed by a bitter ex; but I did manage to "backup" the 24/192 stereo mix); and I also was able to borrow the japanese SACD that came out. I'm 99% sure they basically just converted the 24/192 DVD-Audio to DSD for this release. It didn't sound any better; if anything...the DVD-Audio sounded better.
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2 more:

Deep Purple: Machine Head (SACD)
Deep Purple: Machine Head (DVD-Audio)

Simple Minds: New Gold Dream (SACD)
Simple Minds: New Gold Dream (DVD-Audio)

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 Post subject: Re: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
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Now here's another burning question

Were any titles released on DVD-Audio or SACD also released on blu-ray audio?

I know that Supertramp's Breakfast in America was released on both BRA and SACD.
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PostPosted: 06 Nov 2020, 03:58 
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elahrairrah wrote:
Were any titles released on DVD-Audio or SACD also released on blu-ray audio?


In Japan it's the other way around. Lots of BRA were THEN released on SACD.

https://www.discogs.com/label/1026653-High-Fidelity-Pure-Audio?sort=catno&sort_order=asc&page=2

Look for the PROC-*, PROT-*, PROZ-* references.

Ex:

https://www.discogs.com/The-Oscar-Peterson-Trio-Night-Train/release/10784853 (BRA, 2013)
https://www.discogs.com/The-Oscar-Peterson-Trio-Night-Train/release/13949045 (SACD, 2018)

https://www.discogs.com/Sonny-Clark-Cool-Struttin/release/7845095 (BRA, 2015)
https://www.discogs.com/Sonny-Clark-Cool-Struttin/release/11266976 (SACD, 2017)

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 Post subject: Re: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
PostPosted: 16 Nov 2020, 17:23 
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Maybe you can answer this for me, Julien.

I've been trying to find some sites/reviews comparing the blu-ray audio release os Supertramp's Breakfast In America vs the SACD release.

Those are few and far between, but I see at least two posters on the SACD board saying that the Japanese SACD-SHM release is the superior version while the US released SACD is lacking.

Do you know if the US and Japanese SACD releases were mastered differently?
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 Post subject: Re: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
PostPosted: 30 Mar 2022, 21:15 
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Found another. Apparently The Doors "L.A. Woman" was released on both SACD and DVD-Audio

DVD Audio
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PostPosted: 27 Aug 2022, 19:25 
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dewdude wrote:
A lot of SACD's were also released as DVD-Audio and vise-versa...mostly after DVD-Audio became a total flop. Most of those are sourced from the same digital masters they used for DVD-Audio..so often they're created from 24/96 or 24/192 content. I have a couple of SHM-SACDs that even say they were sourced from 24/96 PCM content.


For Warner USA, these were coming from the DVD Audio catalog and converted for SACD indeed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Warner_Premium_Sound_series

I have none of the DVD Audio but managed to get some of the SACDs.

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 Post subject: Re: Music featured on both SACD and DVD-Audio?
PostPosted: 06 Sep 2022, 16:14 
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I have the DVD-Audio releases for Chicago V, Hotel California, Fragile and Rumours. I believe they all have 24 bit/192khz stereo tracks so I can't imagine the SACDs being an upgrade.

In the case of Fragile though, Panegyric also re-released that on DVD-Audio as well as blu-ray audio; remastered by Steve Wilson.
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