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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc vs DVD Posted: 04 Dec 2017, 09:51 |
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ertoili wrote: Well....not all BD are DNRed...have watched recently "Venus Wars" (1986) it keeps all the original grain if you like that I recommend you. Does it look like it does on LD (natural) or does the grain look artificial and overcompensated for? Blu Ray has a tendency to bring out defects much more than they were originally seen even without remastering. This happened on a number of Japanese anime film re releases. One I have is the Macross DYRL? DVD remaster boxset and the grain looks terrible and over done, much prefer my super natural Perfect Edition LD box. The first LD I ever owned too.
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc vs DVD Posted: 05 Dec 2017, 07:35 |
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forper wrote: Does it look like it does on LD (natural) or does the grain look artificial and overcompensated for? Blu Ray has a tendency to bring out defects much more than they were originally seen even without remastering.
This happened on a number of Japanese anime film re releases. One I have is the Macross DYRL? DVD remaster boxset and the grain looks terrible and over done, much prefer my super natural Perfect Edition LD box. The first LD I ever owned too. Grain doesnt exist on LD, its all digital noise. LD is too limited to reproduce actual film grain. Even DVD has a hard time capturing it. Only Blu-Ray and UHD can produce grain.
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc vs DVD Posted: 05 Dec 2017, 20:17 |
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forper wrote: ertoili wrote: Well....not all BD are DNRed...have watched recently "Venus Wars" (1986) it keeps all the original grain if you like that I recommend you. Does it look like it does on LD (natural) or does the grain look artificial and overcompensated for? Blu Ray has a tendency to bring out defects much more than they were originally seen even without remastering. This happened on a number of Japanese anime film re releases. One I have is the Macross DYRL? DVD remaster boxset and the grain looks terrible and over done, much prefer my super natural Perfect Edition LD box. The first LD I ever owned too. LD might be able to compete with DVD if you had your dream signature setup
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ertoili
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc vs DVD Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 13:57 |
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nissling wrote: No, not really. While grain is technically possible on Laserdisc, it's never really what you see in major features. For films shot on 8mm (and, in best case, 16mm) Laserdisc could have some of the grain remaining although the noise of the medium itself will most likely be overwhelming. For 35mm, the grain is simply too small in order to be intact on Laserdisc.
With high enough resolution and decent compression algorithms, both H.264 and H.265 are capable of represent the grain of pretty much any film regardless of stock. And this can then be used for home video distribution.
I recommend having a look at Arrow's Blu-Rays for anyone who doubts my statement. They put more effort into their masters than Criterion and it looks fantastic. Easily among the most film-like experiences you can have in your own home. that matches....I ve seen film grain on LD mostly on Anime TV series and 1:33 movies (or releases).....but hey! LD can do it
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