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pbiancardi
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Post subject: Re: Xbox one S improves Laserdisc experience. Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 14:39 |
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nissling wrote: The HDMI input on the Xbox One S is bound to YCbCr 4:2:0. Considering how awful video games look with such sub-sampling, Microsoft must've smoked crack when designing the input. I wouldn't recommend using it at all. He is watching on a computer monitor that doesn't have a zoom feature so that is what he is using for. Anyone know if that input processes the video at all or is it just a pass through?
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pbiancardi
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Post subject: Re: Xbox one S improves Laserdisc experience. Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 19:17 |
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nissling wrote: Like I said, it is bound to YCbCr 4:2:0. If your feeding it with a signal that has a higher sub-sampling (which you most likely are) the color resolution will be decreased. In other words, no, it's not passthrough. So with this setup LD Player -> DVD Recorder HDMI out @ 1080i -> Xbox One S out @ 1080p HDMI -> computer monitor the Xbox would actually degrade the signal?
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therussian
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Post subject: Re: Xbox one S improves Laserdisc experience. Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 21:08 |
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signofzeta wrote: Why does this feature exist in the first place? Forgive my ignorance. My last new systems were PS3 and WiiU and neither had inputs, neither do any other system I’ve ever owned. I guess Microsoft wanted to give people more options / functionality.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: Xbox one S improves Laserdisc experience. Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 17:29 |
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nissling wrote: I'd say that the HDMI input would be good if it supported HDCP 2.2, since several projectors and displays only have one input that can handle this encryption. But since it doesn't, it's pretty much useless for pass-through.
An extra HDMI input probably cost them 50 cent more per unit. If they make the Xbox One S one dollar more expensive, they're not losing any money. 50 cents per unit adds up to a lot. If you understood how business worked you would realize that any company would cut an option if it were even 1 cent more. Any cuts equals more profits for the shareholders. Also why when you do a job now you are doing the job of 3 people rather than what it used to be.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Xbox one S improves Laserdisc experience. Posted: 01 Nov 2017, 02:29 |
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They already lose money on every system. If they add add a $0.50 port and sell 100M units they just elected to throw away $50M. MS isn’t afraid of course, they lose billions on XBox, have done for 15 years, but even in that dumpster fire there are controls. They don’t just add ports for the heck of it. More to the point, there are plenty of things that cost $0.50 that this thing doesn’t have so why this feature? According to some stuff I read I guess the point is to put whatever else you have through it instead of using an AVR (or another HDMI port on the TV?) so it does seem odd that they kneecapped it. I guess they want all non-MS products to look inferior?
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