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 Post subject: Jackie Chan's Protector japanese LD vs edited HK dvd
PostPosted: 18 Dec 2017, 20:43 
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The japanese LD is the longest cut 95min of JC's movie the Protector.
I have the HK dvd which is a re-worked shorter version compared to US cut.

What does japanese LD have as extra scenes compared to JC's own re-edited HK-version?
Are there extra scenes with more fights in the jap LD version which is missing on re-edited HK dvd?

Jap LD is a heavy rotter
  
 
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IIRC there is some nudity in this movie that JC didn’t care for and is absent from some versions. My hunch is that’s part of what’s missing from the Chinese language versions. What are the differences in running times?
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PostPosted: 19 Dec 2017, 03:04 
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Here we go again, will you ever buy the LDs you ask about or do you just want to know???
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PostPosted: 19 Dec 2017, 10:41 
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IIRC there is some nudity in this movie that JC didn’t care for and is absent from some versions. My hunch is that’s part of what’s missing from the Chinese language versions. What are the differences in running times?


I have the UK dvd which is the R-rated version.
US cut has all the nudity intact but missing some details in martial arts fights which the re-edited HK version have.

I have the original HK Universe dvd which is the re-edited version.
Missing details I refer to are when JC fights kickboxing champion Bill Wallace in the drug factory, every punch and kick between them both is more visible with white flour flying around when they punch each other also there are some more fight scenes added which are missing from the US cut.

The japanese LD has some extra scenes added are they only dialogue scenes or action scenes?
However the japanese LD doesn't have english audio and is not english friendly.

This disc is also a rotter, with a critical grade of having playback issues


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PostPosted: 19 Dec 2017, 10:43 
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Here we go again, will you ever buy the LDs you ask about or do you just want to know???


I don't git you?!
why do you even bother to reply if you don't have anything constructive to share or interesting to write, are you bored with boredom just to annoy me?
what's the prob Bob?
why do you always write in a rude way acting like a circumcised dip-turd, it's not very nice of you!

please behave and get a grip on yourself
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jackie Chan's Protector japanese LD vs edited HK dvd
PostPosted: 20 Dec 2017, 02:07 
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Thanks Thumper.


I'm asking a legitimate question, do you buy LDs or do you just want to know what the missing or uncut scenes are between VHS, LD, DVD and Bluray?
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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2017, 10:45 
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rein-o wrote:
Thanks Thumper.


I'm asking a legitimate question, do you buy LDs or do you just want to know what the missing or uncut scenes are between VHS, LD, DVD and Bluray?


you don't have to use terms like " Here we go again" it's rude to write that way!
do you see me comment in your threads?
no, I don't comment in your threads coz I stay away from you!
I try to avoid you!

if you can't write a good thing then butt out!
I bet many people on this forum are annoyed @ ya when you reply in an unfriendly way in other threads!?

if I have the UK dvd and re-edited H/K dvd, what doas that tell you?
do I buy discs or not?

I 'd like to ask Q's first about a certain edition then decide if it's worth to buy or not?
since there were no intelligent replies in the other thread about Invazion UZA, I decided not to buy the disc.

maybe same goes with japanese LD Protector when no-one contributes with wisdom about added scenes.
did studio add action or only dialogue scenes?
  
 
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I read I Am Jackie Chan and he says quite a few things about how he was disappointed with this movie but at least it wasn’t another Battle Creak Brawl. I think it’s quite possible that there was additional photography done. If you have that book (I cannot recommend it more highly) the answer is probably in there.
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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2017, 16:38 
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Here we go again :crazy: :lol: ;) :lol:
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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2017, 17:03 
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Here we go again :crazy: :lol: ;) :lol:


Now this is funny.
You're a funny guy Sully-rein-0, that's why I'm going to kill you last! :lol:
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jackie Chan's Protector japanese LD vs edited HK dvd
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I read I Am Jackie Chan and he says quite a few things about how he was disappointed with this movie but at least it wasn’t another Battle Creak Brawl. I think it’s quite possible that there was additional photography done. If you have that book (I cannot recommend it more highly) the answer is probably in there.


that's correct JC was very upset and disapointed with director not working the way JC intended to.
I love this movie and it's one of the very best ones JC did.
New York scenery in the 80's was one of the best filming locations
  
 
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I like it more than Rush Hour (a series that we are hopefully free from now that Brett Ratner has been outed as someone who makes more than just terrible movies) but it doesn’t feel like the “real” JC. Worth owning but I’d rather just watch something JC I like more.
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 Post subject: Re: Jackie Chan's Protector japanese LD vs edited HK dvd
PostPosted: 20 Dec 2017, 23:54 
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finding info on interweb.

japanese blu-ray edition has 3 versions of Protector.
Japan longest version is 105 minutes compared to LD which is 97 minutes long.
H/K cut is 87 min.
US cut is 95 min

japanese LD is probably missing scenes which are available on japanese blu-ray

http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=20222

now I wonder what's missing from LD?
  
 
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Here we go again :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


And don't torture me, if you keep posting like this kill me first :yawn: :yawn:
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I have to say, the question of meaningful differences in different cuts of The Protector has absolutely been answered online at some point in the 90s. Hopefully that forum where it happened hasn’t been abandoned by its members for Facebook and you can Google your way in there.

It’s honestly kinda shocking how much stuff isn’t online anymore that I thought always would be because everyone’s college accounts work forever.
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 Post subject: Re: Jackie Chan's Protector japanese LD vs edited HK dvd
PostPosted: 21 Dec 2017, 02:59 
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Agree, I feel like I should have never sold off or thrown away any of the reference books I had on different collectibles over the years.

Oh well, at least I know which ones I had and the value of them has dropped drastically so I can pick them up again if I ever need them.
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 Post subject: Re: Jackie Chan's Protector japanese LD vs edited HK dvd
PostPosted: 22 Dec 2017, 11:06 
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henry-silva wrote:
New York scenery in the 80's was one of the best filming locations


If you like Hongky flicks filmed in 1980s NYC then check out Taking Manhattan a Kirk Wong actioner from 1992. I recently picked up the Fortune Star DVD just based on the director and the cover and was glad I did. Excellent gritty action and story and great authentic NYC 1980s backdrop.

Jackie Chan is great, he lived in my hometown for a few years and visited often in the 90s to see his parents. I saw him walking down the street once in an all white suit. His movies are great but only one part of the Hong Kong action world.
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 Post subject: Re: Jackie Chan's Protector japanese LD vs edited HK dvd
PostPosted: 22 Dec 2017, 12:03 
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henry-silva wrote:
New York scenery in the 80's was one of the best filming locations


If you like Hongky flicks filmed in 1980s NYC then check out Taking Manhattan a Kirk Wong actioner from 1992. I recently picked up the Fortune Star DVD just based on the director and the cover and was glad I did. Excellent gritty action and story and great authentic NYC 1980s backdrop.

Jackie Chan is great, he lived in my hometown for a few years and visited often in the 90s to see his parents. I saw him walking down the street once in an all white suit. His movies are great but only one part of the Hong Kong action world.


I loev 80's and 90's H und K action movies.
They are so bad they become so good! :thumbup:
I never saw that movie Taking Manhattan, I will look it up.
It's not on LD.

It didn't get a good rating on german movie site.
Is this a martial arts movie or just a shoot 'em up flick like John Woo movies?
https://ssl.ofdb.de/film/19396,Taking-Manhattan


Righting wrongs is another cool Cynthia Rothrock flick
What is wrong with this edition?

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/35854/TSV ... DEFECTIVE+


You never stalked Jackie Chan like a groupie when you saw him in your neighborhood? :D :lol: :ugeek:
You never spoke to him on the street?
I bet he's a very nice person :thumbup: :thumbup:
  
 
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Recently Hulu added remastered episodes of the Odd Couple. There is a good deal of exterior street photography and it’s really fascinating to watch. This was 1970. I only watched some very early ones and I have a feeling they probably stayed indoors more later as TV got more video based and cheap, but what they have looks wonderful.
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 Post subject: Re: Jackie Chan's Protector japanese LD vs edited HK dvd
PostPosted: 27 Dec 2017, 11:49 
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henry-silva wrote:
forper wrote:
henry-silva wrote:
New York scenery in the 80's was one of the best filming locations


If you like Hongky flicks filmed in 1980s NYC then check out Taking Manhattan a Kirk Wong actioner from 1992. I recently picked up the Fortune Star DVD just based on the director and the cover and was glad I did. Excellent gritty action and story and great authentic NYC 1980s backdrop.

Jackie Chan is great, he lived in my hometown for a few years and visited often in the 90s to see his parents. I saw him walking down the street once in an all white suit. His movies are great but only one part of the Hong Kong action world.


I loev 80's and 90's H und K action movies.
They are so bad they become so good! :thumbup:
I never saw that movie Taking Manhattan, I will look it up.
It's not on LD.

It didn't get a good rating on german movie site.
Is this a martial arts movie or just a shoot 'em up flick like John Woo movies?
https://ssl.ofdb.de/film/19396,Taking-Manhattan


Righting wrongs is another cool Cynthia Rothrock flick
What is wrong with this edition?

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/35854/TSV ... DEFECTIVE+


You never stalked Jackie Chan like a groupie when you saw him in your neighborhood? :D :lol: :ugeek:
You never spoke to him on the street?
I bet he's a very nice person :thumbup: :thumbup:


He was too far away but my friend saw him in a local restaurant another time and got an autograph.

I don't agree Hong Kong movies are often "so bad they're good", often they're so good it's ridiculous on their tiny budgets and so creative and unpredictable at times. Plus unbeatable characters, action and shootouts. Nothing like them.

Love anything with Cynthia Rothrock in it, or that other whitey, my fellow Australian Richard Norton. 

Taking Manhattan isn't really a martial arts movie although there is some in it, it's more of a gritty action movie. It's definately not a John Woo style shoot em up.

I'm surprised there's no Hong Kong LD of it.

I actually prefer DVD for Hong Kong stuff now that Fortune Star/Joy Sales puts out some decent editions of old stuff. The subtitles get cleaned up vs the LD with the original theatrical subs that are often hard to decipher. Exception would be John Woo stuff where it's so kinetic I don't want to risk digital macro blocking.
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