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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 22 May 2012, 08:42 |
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disclord wrote: Sadly DVD recorders didn't exist in 1997 when I had my DVL-700 modified, so I have no way of showing a before and after picture from my particular player. One thing I did learn from a Pioneer tech was that the 700 was a better LaserDisc player than the Elite DVL-90... The 90 was designed first and the 700 done a bit later with some improvements. It's DVD performance isn't too good but even in its unmodded state, it's LD performance is better than the later DVL players... And there is a lot of player to player variation in quality, even within the same model, so one could be great and another of the same model looks like junk. I think I got a good basic model because other 700's I've seen look worse than mine did in its unmodded state.
Player to player variation was one of LaserDisc's big problems... Since the system was analog, it was totally dependent on everything being adjusted and performing perfectly. Only Pioneer and a few Panasonic models (LX-900, LX-600 and LX-H670) could produce players that were truly good, and both companies had their share of clunkers, like the Panasonic LX-1000u or the Pioneer CLD-95 and CLD-3090. Other companies players always looked like junk, even when working perfectly. And then there were the true junk players like the Zenith or Carver or Radio Shack. Oh, and Sony. Ah, that makes sense, thought you had upgraded it recently =) I have a dvl 700 my self, but compared to my other players, it doesn't get the job done, check the laserdisc picture quality thread, i have posted some pictures.
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 22 May 2012, 19:43 |
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cpix wrote: disclord wrote: Sadly DVD recorders didn't exist in 1997 when I had my DVL-700 modified, so I have no way of showing a before and after picture from my particular player. One thing I did learn from a Pioneer tech was that the 700 was a better LaserDisc player than the Elite DVL-90... The 90 was designed first and the 700 done a bit later with some improvements. It's DVD performance isn't too good but even in its unmodded state, it's LD performance is better than the later DVL players... And there is a lot of player to player variation in quality, even within the same model, so one could be great and another of the same model looks like junk. I think I got a good basic model because other 700's I've seen look worse than mine did in its unmodded state.
Player to player variation was one of LaserDisc's big problems... Since the system was analog, it was totally dependent on everything being adjusted and performing perfectly. Only Pioneer and a few Panasonic models (LX-900, LX-600 and LX-H670) could produce players that were truly good, and both companies had their share of clunkers, like the Panasonic LX-1000u or the Pioneer CLD-95 and CLD-3090. Other companies players always looked like junk, even when working perfectly. And then there were the true junk players like the Zenith or Carver or Radio Shack. Oh, and Sony. Ah, that makes sense, thought you had upgraded it recently =) I have a dvl 700 my self, but compared to my other players, it doesn't get the job done, check the laserdisc picture quality thread, i have posted some pictures. I've taken some pics off my TV screen of my MSB modified DVL-700's picture playing Physical and Soul Kiss. Please excuse the poor quality, I've not done this before and don't have a capture card. here's the link: http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?p=13322#p13322
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 02:14 |
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substance wrote: What did you pay for the msb upgrades if you dont mind me asking. I went onto their webpage they ask a thousand to a few thousand for upgrades of current cd/bd players. Maybe they were more reasonable back then,given even a cheap player was a thousand or so. Now you can buy a already super good oppo bd player for $500. I dont know how many people would pay 2-3k on top of that to upgrade. Then I know lexicon bd playet is oppo rebadge with 2500 markup or theta rebadge with some mods with 2k markup. You never know The mods were done back in 1997 and cost me just about $400. They were much cheaper for everything then. Now their prices are outrageous for what they provide. They are still willing to add am AC-3 output to an LD player but want more than 500 for it.
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 05:43 |
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substance wrote: $400 is more than reasonable for a ld player since they are very complex. Analog machines the smallest touch can make difference. Today not much can be done on bd players other than adding quality analog audio out. Most of the new media playets have so many bugs on their fw. Sw tweaks could be more benefitial to todays bd players than adding larger heavier chasis. Yes, but the tweak companies try to sell digital as if it were analog, where vibration and such does make a difference. They rely on the fact the the vast majority of users don't understand how digital works.
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 04:38 |
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The player I use most frequently is a Pioneer LD-S9. I had purchased the player from N.Santini in Japan in September, 08. He had the player reconditioned at Pioneer as part of the sale agreement. I had been using a CLD-79. which is now in another room. When I connected the LD-S9 to my Panasonic 46 inch Plasma for the first time I had used an S-Type cable which I had been using for years. The picture was not what I had expected. Changing to a composite cable made the difference. An excellent player both in performance, and appearance (champagne Gold) I would like to have a demodulator in the same color.
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 14:31 |
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steed1 wrote: The player I use most frequently is a Pioneer LD-S9. I had purchased the player from N.Santini in Japan in September, 08. He had the player reconditioned at Pioneer as part of the sale agreement. I had been using a CLD-79. which is now in another room. When I connected the LD-S9 to my Panasonic 46 inch Plasma for the first time I had used an S-Type cable which I had been using for years. The picture was not what I had expected. Changing to a composite cable made the difference. An excellent player both in performance, and appearance (champagne Gold) I would like to have a demodulator in the same color. Try to track down this reciever then . . . Yamaha RX-V1
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 15:27 |
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My Pioneer VSA-D8EX really doesn't want to die (it's 12 years old now, the reason I bought it is that it had internal AC3RF) but it has the advantage to come from the same product line as the X9, making them neat brothers on a shelf: Attachment:
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 00:10 |
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naiaru wrote: Does anyone else think we should be able to change our vote? Good point. Julien
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 04:33 |
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admin wrote: naiaru wrote: Does anyone else think we should be able to change our vote? Good point. Julien Thank you Julien!
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 04:40 |
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admin wrote: My Pioneer VSA-D8EX really doesn't want to die (it's 12 years old now, the reason why it had internal AC3RF) but it has the advantage to come from the same product line as the X9, making them neat brothers on a shelf: Attachment: 8EX.jpg Attachment: X9.jpg Julien That's sweet looking. Is it a strict amp (vsA) or receiver? Around here that would be vsX..... Looks very pretty (hope that's not too girly sounding)....
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 14:19 |
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Well the pioneer reciever's look nice from that era but pioneer sucks in making recievers the sound qual is sheit! (my opinion) Better take a marantz,nad,meridian etc etc
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 14:25 |
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jep it s a pioneer clone, average player (not bad)
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Post subject: Re: What brand is your main LD Player? Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 00:17 |
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I have a Pioneer CLD-S350 and I seem to be the only one. How does it stack up to these other models? (My first post and I'm no techie when it comes to LD players...)
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